A few sweeping generalizations there AN.No problem with that but can you show me otherwise with a link maybe???

Aussie Nationalist, u sure that's all of Keysar Trad's kids?
or is that his extended family as well?

but i guess that doesn't matter anyway, if Australians are concerned, then they should have more kids to combat the growth in the muslim population (as i mentioned before).

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so i take it the fully grown man in the background is his son.
and he must have three wives (given there are three woman in the pic)? or is that two wives? since one of the woman looks a bit young, so it might be his daughter.
either way, i'm surprised he hasn't been charged with polygamy yet.

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Yeah, polygamy is illegal, so don't u think it would be quite stupid of him to take a picture with his multiple wives and kids to parade around.

he would have been charged already for sure.
if he hasn't, then i suspect that pic is his extended family as well.

even so, that's one family, u have any evidence to sugest that it's the ordinary size for muslim families? if it is, then we better get cracking to keep our birth rate up as well (not that i think muslims are a threat anyway).

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i'm pretty sure muslims take a strong stance when it comes to lovers, in the sense that sexual relations is only allowed within marriage.

so it's either this guy isn't religious as he has several "lovers", or they are his wives and if they are his wives, then he would have been charged with polygamy.

or it could be a picture of his extended family.
who knows, but posting one pic isn't proof that all muslim families are this size. and if they are, why blame them for out-breeding you? that's not their fault, that's our fault for deciding to have less kids.

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I'm afraid the science is on my side. Its is a well proven fact of nature that all animals respond to a threatening environment with higher reproductive activity. The more comfortable you are, and the greater your belief in your own survival the lower is your drive to reproduce. This is the same for every species and you can see the evidence when you compare third world birth rates to those of western nations.

Education comes into it because there is a strong link between education and social well being, generally speaking of course. There is also a strong and proven link between overall education of your society and the level of industrialisation the country has reached. Basically, knowledge = job, jobs = comfort, comfort = less breeding. Its correlation not causation I'll give you that, but there are proven links, just go look at the figures.

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My parents taught me many things but to say that I (or any other child) grew up to believe in them is a fallacy at best, plain bullshit at worst. No sane individual will say that a child with free will, will simply swallow their parents teachings and follow them for life - PARTICULARLY strict ones, PARTICULARLY in a well educated society and PARTICULARLY when all the people around you seem to be acting just a *bit* differently.

Do all children of Christian families grow up to be Christian? (please don't just say yes for the sake of the argument... think about this)

You do know that it is a minority of the Muslim community that follow the hard-line stuff? just as it is for Christians. Even IF (big if) all children of Muslim immigrants grow up and remain Muslim, only a fraction of those are the ones you are scared of. Most Muslims are fine mate, just chill.

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No I mean show them the offerings of a free market industrialised society, and show them the offerings of a free and liberal society.

If I was a young kid in Australia with strict Islamic parents forcing their dogma down my throat, I think I would take the rampant hedonism thanks and I bet a vast majority of kids would be with me.


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Call me what you will, but you are a paranoid nut. There is no danger of muslim takeover. The only danger is in demonising a group within our society - this is how Hitler attacked the Jews, he got the people on his side first. If you want to talk societal divisions then it is far worse to point the finger at a group and say they are not welcome than to simply allow them to live and express their culture as they like... within the bounds of our laws. Muslims have no political power in this country, what are you afraid of?

POLYGAMY is mentioned in some of the posts above. Yes, polygamy is legal in Sharia law and it is becoming legal in the UK by backdoor methods. Monogamy is the UK law but muslims are getting more marriages through ceremonies in the mosques. The muslims accept these as legal. The UK tax authories have now decided to recognise these polygamus marriages with respect to the inheritance tax laws. The law gets changed by stealth. Do you think the police will enforce anti-wife bashing laws in Lakemba?