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Reply #75 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 1:51pm

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It is of my opinion that they and they only are at fault, through lack of education and hygene practices.

So are you saying that when they come to Australia they bring their lack of food education and clean water with them? My original point was that Australian cultural influence on third world immigrants will quickly change their breeding habits, and you either seem to agree now... or you think they bring these things with them Huh

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Reply #76 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 1:55pm

It is of my opinion that they and they only are at fault, through lack of education and hygene practices.

Poverty is a vicious cycle, just like wealth. Trying to apply fault is a bit absurd. That's like saying you are to blame for being born into a rich or poor society, or in a time of great wealth or miserable poverty. No place or society is exempt from either.

The Chinese, and one historical pacific island community I read about in Jared Diamond's book 'Collapse' are the only societies I am aware of that have actively chosen one course or the other. Every other society arived where they are by chance.

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Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us
Reply #77 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 3:59pm

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So are you saying that when they come to Australia they bring their lack of food education and clean water with them? My original point was that Australian cultural influence on third world immigrants will quickly change their breeding habits, and you either seem to agree now... or you think they bring these things with them Huh

My point was, just as in their homeland when food, water and medicine is plentiful they Breed like rabbits.
Perhaps on some our influence might change that, and thats good. if they are educated.

Some cultures/religions preach having as many children as possible no matter what and these are the poverty makers eg; fundamentalist muslims,catholics,africans etc.

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Reply #78 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 4:08pm

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Poverty is a vicious cycle, just like wealth. Trying to apply fault is a bit absurd. That's like saying you are to blame for being born into a rich or poor society, or in a time of great wealth or miserable poverty. No place or society is exempt from either.

True, but in places of continual poverty like some African countries why do they insist on continued breeding? its very cruel.
Going into a depression or something like that is one thing, its over in a relatively short time and far apart people will be impoverished for a while after but almost always get back on their feet.

But Africa??? no. they will always be in poverty for as long as they;

1. keep fighting tribal wars.

2. retain their dictators.

3. keep smacking.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us Reply #79 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 4:15pm Are you familiar with Malthus?
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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us Reply #80 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 5:35pm freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2007 at 4:15pm: Are you familiar with Malthus? Who or what the hell is that?
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Reply #81 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 6:25pm

He's a famous dead white guy who came up with this theory that humans are bound to live in misery. Basically, improvements in agriculture can only give linear increases in our capacity to support ourselves, whereas our population will always go up exponentially. So no matter what we do it will eventually catch up. War, famine, disease and misery are inevitable.

Many people take the view that he has been 'proven' wrong because western coutnries are limiting their population. But there are plenty of places where the 'Malthusian' prohpesy is playing out, such as Rwanda. Also, there is no guarantee that the current trend to limit population will continue. After all it is completely voluntary in all countries except China. The American people would pull out their guns before they allowed their government to try to coerce them into limitations on breeding. Furthermore the trend in the future will most likely be towards globalisation of overpopulation problems. Any breakdowns in the 'world order' that restrict international trade would put a lot more countries on the edge, which combined with mass human migration could bring Malthus' worst predictions to bear.

Basically his theory is that we are no different from animals and the current 'free for all' that has lasted a century or two is just a temporary glitch in the normal population dynamics that control all plant and animal populations.

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Reply #82 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 6:29pm

freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2007 at 6:25pm:

He's a famous dead white guy who came up with this theory that humans are bound to live in misery. Basically, improvements in agriculture can only give linear increases in our capacity to support ourselves, whereas our population will always go up exponentially. So no matter what we do it will eventually catch up. War, famine, disease and misery are inevitable.

Many people take the view that he has been 'proven' wrong because western coutnries are limiting their population. But there are plenty of places where the 'Malthusian' prohpesy is playing out, such as Rwanda. Also, there is no guarantee that the current trend to limit population will continue. After all it is completely voluntary in all countries except China. The American people would pull out their guns before they allowed their government to try to coerce them into limitations on breeding. Furthermore the trend in the future will most likely be towards globalisation of overpopulation problems. Any breakdowns in the 'world order' that restrict international trade would put a lot more countries on the edge, which combined with mass human migration could bring Malthus' worst predictions to bear.

Let that earth killing asteroid strike now! Grin

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Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us
Reply #83 - Mar 15^th, 2007 at 11:06pm

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so according to the example u gave above, now ur saying that muslim are not out-breeding us. so what was the point of this thread?

or is it that u think muslims are out-breeding us, but do not want to admit that u aren't doing ur part? like i said before, if u see them as a threat, then start breeding and don't give excuses. otherwise, stop complaining.

Gavin, are you on drugs? Huh

They are outbreeding us, I'm just saying that I as an individual will do as much as I can to produce more kids to outbreed Muslims. And it's a fact that Australia's birthrate is going down... whilst Muslims are the ones producing kids.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us Reply #84 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 9:51am Do you have any evidence that they are outbreeding us?
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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us Reply #85 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 12:42pm freediver wrote on Mar 16^th, 2007 at 9:51am: Do you have any evidence that they are outbreeding us? Havent you been listening. Take a trip to sydney and see for yourself.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us Reply #86 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 12:43pm That isn't meaningful evidence.
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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us Reply #87 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 12:50pm Would you like me to go out and take photographs? cause i'll do it.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48833 At my desk.	Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us Reply #88 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 12:52pm I could just as easily take photos of big white families. It would mean nothing.
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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Confirmed: Muslims are trying to outbreed us Reply #89 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 1:08pm freediver wrote on Mar 16^th, 2007 at 12:52pm: I could just as easily take photos of big white families. It would mean nothing. It'd mean something to me! I'd be very happy!
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