skeptic wrote on Apr 17^th, 2007 at 5:09pm:


Assault is not a form of attempted murder. To be convicted of murder, it must be proved you formed an INTENT to kill. Attempted murder must have elements of intent and (usually) physicalilty. Absence of physicality is conspiracy to murder.

Aggravated assault / GBH is quite different to murder. There is no intent to kill, only maim. If a person dies as a result of their injuries, it would be manslaughter.

So in this case, without capturing the murderer, or determining motive, the police would be unable to determine the intention of the attacker. Therefore they would have to rule out murder. Effectively, the accomplice has been charged with accessory to aggravated assault (i.e. assisted evasion, not assisting the crime). They should receive a lesser sentence than someone actually carried out an assault. 9 months is less than 11 months, so it seems the sentence is fair.

Regardless of the law, it sounds like from what DT says, the perpetrator is a maniac, and should be locked up indefinitely. I would imagine the coppers are watching him right now, just waiting for him to make a mistake. Morons like this always do.

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i can say the same thing about you since u are so adament that this guy knows who the attacker is.

but do u know that covering up a crime or concealing evidence from the police is also a crime? so considering that he wasn't charged with those crimes indicates that the police didn't have any evidence that he knows who the attacker is.

remember to be charged with something, the police need evidence, otherwise ur just wasting the courts time.  

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my point is u don't need a weapon or specialist fighting training to kill someone, it is possible for an amateur to beat someone to death using his fists.

and just because he didn't cause serious damage to the victim doesn't make it any less of an "attempt". put it this way, using ur logic, then one can argue that the Lebs committed assault since they didn't kill the guy they stabbed.

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Apr 18^th, 2007 at 8:29pm:


actually, based on what the court was saying they can only prove that he was the getaway driver and that was the crime he was charged with.

u say he covering up for the attacker, well prove it? he claims he was high on drugs and can't remember the incident, do u have evidence that his lying and really knows who did it? and don't bother coming back and saying "well proof he really doesn't know the attacker", since the onus is on the court to prove it, not on him.

like i said before, u need evidence, otherwise ur just wasting the courts time.  

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If it involves a death of a person, does the choice of weapon really matter? No, u need to look at the intention of the attacker, i.e. did he intent to kill or just cause bodily harm.

and in this case, the Leb guy wasn't the attacker anyway, he was just the driver.

He has. he can say he is a muslim who follows the koran correctly.
Check with hilali, they are in complete agreeance.

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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22688983-5006784,00.html

A POWERFUL Islamic organisation has been stripped of its community housing after being caught placing friends in state-owned properties intended for refugees.

An independent audit commissioned by the NSW Housing Department found the NSW Islamic Council, which manages 10 government-owned units in Sydney's southwest, had mismanaged the properties and breached its leasing agreement.

The inquiry into the NSW Islamic Council was sparked in August after The Australian revealed the body's vice-president, Ali Roude, let a two-bedroom flat in Belmore to Muslim community radio broadcaster Abraham Zoabi, who did not qualify for public housing.

They are for refugees sprint, regardless of religion. From the article:

...the NSW Islamic Council, which manages 10 government-owned units

The Housing Department owns and manages public housing.

It also delegates the management of 13,000 community houses to non-government and not-for-profit organisations such as the Islamic Council.