Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 29^th, 2007 at 12:42am:

Terrorism is a tactic of war, usually it is called guerilla warfare. The deliberate targeting of civilians is not a wholly owned subsidiary of 'terrorist' tactics either, so that line of reasoning has no merit.

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and I don't believe suicide and the murdering of muslims that do not agree with suicide or terror tactics is condoned by the Koran...

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It is not about wages, nothing to do with wages at all, we have a serious skills shortage... in case you have missed the headlines for the past several years... Our government is somewhat opposed to uncontrolled immigration, the pacific solution shows this, and yet pragmatically they continue to allow immigrants in on skilled work visas...why do you think that might be?

Oh and by the way chump, the definition of bigot:

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Doesn't quite fit the argument I am putting forth.

And fascism:

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Is quite the opposite of what I am arguing.

I'll just leave it up to the reader to decide which one of us best fits the definition of these words.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Mickey-Mouse-preaches-Muslim-fight/2007/05/09/1178390368076.html

Hamas militants have enlisted the iconic Mickey Mouse to broadcast their message of Islamic dominion and armed resistance to their most impressionable audience - little kids.

A giant black-and-white rodent - named "Farfour," or "butterfly," but unmistakably a Mickey ripoff - does his high-pitched preaching against the US and Israel on a children's show run each Friday on Al-Aqsa TV, a station run by Hamas. The militant group, sworn to Israel's destruction, shares power in the Palestinian government.

"You and I are laying the foundation for a world led by Islamists," Farfour squeaked on a recent episode of the show, which is titled, Tomorrow's Pioneers.

Israel has long complained that the Palestinian airwaves are filled with incitement.

An Israeli organisation that monitors Palestinian media, Palestinian Media Watch, said the Mickey Mouse lookalike takes "every opportunity to indoctrinate young viewers with teachings of Islamic supremacy, hatred of Israel and the US, and support of 'resistance,' the Palestinian euphemism for terror."

The television station would not comment.

A Gaza-based psychologist said the program proved that the culture of glorifying violence had penetrated Palestinian society.

"It's the fault of both (Israel and the Palestinians)," said Samir Zakkout, from the Gaza Community Mental Health Program.

"If Palestinians had peace, children wouldn't learn violence."

Children have been traumatized by bloodshed in the course of Israeli attacks and Palestinian infighting, he said.

"There's been a collapse of values," he said. "If I can kill my enemy, I can kill my brother."

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Somali forces 'burn Muslim's veils'

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Somali-forces-burn-Muslims-veils/2007/05/09/1178390387541.html

Somali security forces are seizing and even burning Muslim women's veils to stop Islamist insurgents from disguising themselves for attacks, authorities and witnesses said.

The crackdown on veils is a highly symbolic turnaround for Mogadishu after Islamist leaders, who controlled the city in the second half of 2006, had instructed women to wear them.

"Every policeman and government soldier has orders to confiscate veils from veiled women," senior police officer Ali Nur told Reuters in Mogadishu, saying various recent attacks had been carried out by people in disguise.

"Some of the remnants of the Islamic Courts have been caught wearing veils. During the war, these remnants, pretending to be women, killed so many government troops."

Somalis are generally moderate Muslims, and most women traditionally cover their heads but not faces. Officials say some suicide attacks have been carried out by men disguised under full face-veils.

Backed by Ethiopia's military, Somali government forces kicked the Islamists out of Mogadishu over the New Year. They have been facing an insurgency since then that has killed at least 1,300 people since February.

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Absorbing Muslims tackles radicalism: PM

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Absorbing-Muslims-tackles-radicalism-PM/2007/05/11/1178390516282.html

Prime Minister John Howard says assimilating new citizens into the Australian community helps tackle the problems of radicalism among a minority of Muslims.

In Tuesday's budget, Treasurer Peter Costello allocated $461,000 to programs that help Muslim communities integrate into the wider Australian community.

"I think it's in the interests of everybody," Mr Howard told Southern Cross Broadcasting.

"There's every reason to try and assimilate - and I unapologetically use that word 'assimilate' - a section of the community, a tiny minority of whose members have caused concern.

Religions, not one scrap of proof that there is any god, there used to be gods for everything. sun moon gods etc,
gods were invented to give answers to our evolving brains
for the inexplicable, comets other stuff in the night sky, earth was the center of the universe and flat, Darwin, Einstein and science challenges religion, hell they were
burning witches up to 500 years ago.
What matters is here and now.
Gutless muslims  killing innocent people almost every day,
(not all I know) is buggered. move on and get with it.
No more immigration of these type until this mob sorts them selves out. not all muslims are terrorists but most terrorists are muslim.
Finally coalition should get out of the middle east, I pitty there women who don't get treated fairly though.

John Smith wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 11:44am:



John_Smith,

What is so strange ?

Post 9/11 many people in the West considered ISLAM to be simply another typical/traditional religion.

And they actually knew very little, about that faith known as, 'ISLAM'.

Maybe FD was in that 'boat' too ?



But in the intervening years, some people have chosen to try educate and inform themselves about what ISLAM is, and about what 'traditional' [i.e. mainstream] ISLAM does promote in the world.

And perhaps the change in their opinion about ISLAM, reflects that effort, to educate and inform themselves more, about what ISLAM is.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 12:26pm:


What happened to cause the complete flip? Did some Arab steal his wife or something?

John Smith wrote on Jul 31^st, 2016 at 3:37pm:


He started talking to Abu.