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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Bible answers Reply #15 - Mar 26^th, 2007 at 11:32pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 26^th, 2007 at 11:29pm: Any other genuine queries ? I like having a specific real question to ask an answer for. Did jesus walk on the sea.
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Reply #16 - Mar 27^th, 2007 at 10:59am

"During the fourth watch of the night Jesus went out to them, walking on the lake. When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. "It's a ghost," they said, and cried out in fear.

"But Jesus immediately said to them: "Take courage! It is I. Don't be afraid."

"Lord, if it's you," Peter replied, "tell me to come to you on the water."

"Come," he said.

Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, "Lord, save me!"

Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith," he said, "why did you doubt?"

Matthew 14:25-31

"Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."

Matthew 21:21-22

"If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing."

1 Corinthians 13:2

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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Bible answers Reply #17 - Mar 27^th, 2007 at 10:06pm So they had jet ski'ing back then ay Tell me this, how did he turn a rock into bread?
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oceans_blue Ex Member	Re: Bible answers Reply #18 - Mar 27^th, 2007 at 10:50pm and what about those pple who turned into salt Sprint? Can you post that but?..I remember that from bible class I used to do as a kid. It was very interesting.
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aloof boof Full Member Offline the roving ear Posts: 134 outback Gender:	Re: Bible answers Reply #19 - Mar 27^th, 2007 at 11:22pm Can you tell me why you sprintcyclist have suddenly appeared and started shoving this down our collective necks.If i want Bible answers i shall read the bloody thing,i dont need your interpretation.Piss off back to your soapbox in the park
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Reply #20 - Mar 28^th, 2007 at 11:13am

Hi ausnat, oceans and aloof,

AUsnat - hahha, waterskiing !!! mmm, can't recall turning a rock into water. He did feed many from a few loaves and fish (about 5000 from my hazy memory). In the old test someone (Moses ?) struck a rock with his staff and water cam out.

Oceans - sure. That was sodom and gemorrah. Only one person got turned into salt. We had a great discussion about that in cracker. Will post the chapter, as it is a ... complete story and quite short.

aloof - I just came here. My spiritual comments I keep to this thread, so do not force it down anyones throat. There is no need to open this thread if it offends you. I don't post quotes anywhere else as that woud be "out of place".

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Reply #21 - Mar 28^th, 2007 at 11:53am

One of my favourite Bill Hicks quotes: "A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a smacking cross? It's like going up to Jackie Onassis wearing a rifle pendant."

Good ole spirituality Grin

Jesus did feed the masses with a single fish and loaf of bread by the way... he just got everyone to turn around for a second first...

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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: Bible answers Reply #22 - Apr 2^nd, 2007 at 10:34pm "The arrogant mock me without restraint, but I do not turn from your law." Psalm 119:51
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oceans_blue Ex Member	Re: Bible answers Reply #23 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 6:13pm hI SPRINT, hAVE A PRACTICAL QUESTION.. WILL THEY PRODUCE A BATH TUB VERSION OF THE GOOD BOOK FOR LITTLIES? PLASTIC COATED ETC
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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: Bible answers Reply #24 - Apr 13^th, 2007 at 10:09pm Hi Oceans, They have had those for YEARS !! Available in all GOOD book stores - hahahha
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Shithouse Rat Junior Member Offline The truth hurts... Posts: 62	Re: Bible answers Reply #25 - Apr 14^th, 2007 at 2:45am Hey, sprintcyclist, Given that the Gospels don't agree with each other, which one contains the most errors and what are they?
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Reply #26 - Apr 14^th, 2007 at 10:24am

Hi rat ,
How are you ?
I thought the gospels did agree with each other ?
They are eye witness accounts of the same period.
Different people see different things during the same event. eg, witnesses to a car crash will report ..... dissimilar things. One person will testify the colour of a car, others will give differing estimates of the cars speeds. One person may say a driver was on their phone !!! But the same event happened.

In a way, variations from different eye witnesses add to the authenticity of the event.
If witnesses give exactly the same report, word for word, that is probably bogus.

That is a good question and probably merits its own thread. Add one if you want.

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Shithouse Rat Junior Member Offline The truth hurts... Posts: 62	Re: Bible answers Reply #27 - Apr 15^th, 2007 at 2:42am No, that's a can of worms I don't want to open, thank you! I just wanted to see you answer the question with a Biblical quote...ripped off! Anyway, love your logic.
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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: Bible answers Reply #28 - Apr 15^th, 2007 at 6:09pm "We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ." 1 John 1:3 That was given for you rat.
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Reply #29 - Oct 20^th, 2008 at 10:35pm

A thought Abu had arose.

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According to official church doctrine, you can. As long as you accept Jesus (pbuh) as your saviour, you can do as you please, and you're still saved.

That's not how I read it. Not at all.

"What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?"
Romans 6:1,2

"In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace.
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!
Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted.
You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness.
When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness.
What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death!
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Romans 6:11-23

There is MUCH more like it through the NT.
I can post more if you wish. You get the idea though.

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