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Reply #150 - Apr 30th, 2007 at 2:07pm
 
Hi stu. Are you interested in adopting any of our policies for tapp?
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Reply #151 - Apr 30th, 2007 at 2:17pm
 
Wonder if some of the online political parties could combine.
Seperately we are not going to accomplish much.

A larger pool of resources may help.
Would have experts in most fields to discuss things in their own ara of expertise .

Our future is more online, mentally led .

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Reply #152 - May 7th, 2007 at 9:49pm
 
Well FD
I dont think that your policies would be constitutionaly correct.

Just like the states giving power to the federal government.

Also these actions require a referendum.
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Are small backyards a bad thing?
Reply #153 - Sep 5th, 2007 at 11:25am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 24th, 2007 at 11:26pm:
Hi enviro,
I like high density. They should be made with soundproof walls and sprung wooden floors .
suburbia is unsustainable, such a waste of energy.
The english (100's of years ago) had big lawns to show off their wealth. lawns take a great amount of time to keep and produce nothiing,so had to be rich to have a lawn. Our society came from there.

I rent a place with a small unuseable back yard. We go down to the local park for a walk/basketball throw/run/boomerang throw whatever. Aside from the clothes line I would prefer to have no backyard. The park is perfect. HUGE, someone else mows it  Smiley. Few backyards I can run in.

yep, give me a place that is logistically good and mimimum useless maintenance, sold me.


Aussie backyard becoming a dying icon

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Aussie-backyard-becoming-a-dying-icon/2007/09/05/1188783277732.html

Australia's outdoor lifestyle is being threatened by the disappearance of an Aussie icon, according to new research.

Queensland's Griffith University professor Professor Tony Hall said the backyard was fast becoming a thing of the past with new estates brimming with sprawling low-set homes taking over from the traditional suburb.

The former UK town planner began his research two years ago after he moved to Australia and noticed homes and their backyards seemed to contradict the open-air lifestyle for which Australia was internationally renowned.

But while urban sprawl was happening in other countries, they were not losing their back yards the way Australian families were, he said.

He said people were building "cheap", square, single-story homes rather than more expensive two-story homes which would allow for maximum floor area and a back yard.

"Walls and the windows cost money, the second story costs money, but this gives you the cheapest way," he said.

"But it's not very nice living in terms of you don't get no view out and it's not a very nice environment compared to the older suburbs."

Prof Hall said his research had concluded the trend was being spurred by people building to increase resale value and longer working hours which meant people were rarely at home.

"The real problem I think though is what is happening to the Australian lifestyle - what's happening to this idea of the outdoor lifestyle, the barbie, the swimming pool?" he said.

The trend also would have damaging effects on the environment with the homes costing more to heat, cool and light.

The lack of trees also meant a lack of biodiversity, a poor microclimate with loss of shade in hot weather and increased runoff in wet weather, he said.

He said a return to the traditional backyard could only be achieved through planning regulations.
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Reply #154 - Nov 9th, 2007 at 11:12am
 
The Sustainability Party is not registered and will not be fielding any candidates at the upcoming federal election. The only other party that supports carbon taxes instead of carbon trading is Conservatives For Climate and Environment.

http://www.cfce.org.au/

They have senate candidates in NSW, Vic and WA and lower house candidates in NSW. Please consider voting for them. If you are a member of any other party please ask them to reconsider carbon taxes. There is clear support for carbon taxes instead of trading schemes among economists and only public ignorance and the vested interests of big polluters is holding the idea back. This is a crucial time for action as the tide is turning on the climate debate in Australia. We must make sure we get the solution right, or we will be delayed another decade in achieving real change.
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Reply #155 - Nov 9th, 2007 at 8:02pm
 
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Reply #156 - Nov 10th, 2007 at 3:40am
 
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Reply #157 - Nov 17th, 2007 at 2:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 22nd, 2007 at 5:48pm:



I'll read more later but for now just 1 question.

Didn't the Greens initially have what is now Labors target for Renewable Energy by 2050?
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Reply #158 - Nov 18th, 2007 at 12:27am
 
Hello all,

Came across your forum by doing a web seach (New Political party).  
I think a new party is needed as the two major parties have
been around to long, they dont seem to have any new ideas.

Whoever wins the election, not alot will change, although the Labour elephant has
the potential do real damage to the economy.

My 2 cents worth.
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Reply #159 - Nov 18th, 2007 at 12:45am
 
Greg wrote on Nov 18th, 2007 at 12:27am:
Hello all,

Came across your forum by doing a web seach (New Political party).  
I think a new party is needed as the two major parties have
been around to long, they dont seem to have any new ideas.

Whoever wins the election, not alot will change, although the Labour elephant has
the potential do real damage to the economy.

My 2 cents worth.


But didn't the Greens initally propose 60% Renewables by 2050 and then Labor stole the idea?

That's a powerful third force IMHO.
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Reply #160 - Nov 18th, 2007 at 1:30am
 
greg - yes, the greens are a .... reasonable 3rd party,
As are the family first party.

together they do make aussie a more balanced place.
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Re: Sustainability Party of Australia
Reply #161 - Nov 18th, 2007 at 2:30pm
 
Didn't the Greens initially have what is now Labors target for Renewable Energy by 2050?

For overall emissions reductions they have the same or at least a similar target for 2050. Labor has no short term target.
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Reply #162 - Nov 19th, 2007 at 11:15pm
 
Yes, your both right of course,  there are the other parties and they do
do a good job.

What I kinda meant was a new party to play a direct part in actually
governing, that is to challenge the Labor or Liberal/National party for power.
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Reply #163 - Nov 20th, 2007 at 3:18pm
 
I think the Democrats have come closest. The Greens will be the next to take a crack at it. I think the Democrats probably did a good job of keeping the two major parties honest and could make a comeback again if necessary. I'm not sure if the Greens will ever be able to go mainstream. However they could reach a similar status to the Nationals if they start to get some lower house seats in the inner city. Unfortunately for them their support base is not as concentrated in terms of electorates as the Nationals. I wouldn't be looking for 'micro' parties to challenge the big two. It takes a long time to establish the credibility the public requires.
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Reply #164 - Nov 20th, 2007 at 11:51pm
 
FD - you are right about a small party not having much chance. The problem is not one of credibility. 
The Democrats have always been a credible party, it hasn't helped them much.

The problem for a new party would be that as the big parties have been around for such along time they have developed a Holden/Falcon type following amongst their supporters, And as it took more than forty years for Toyota to start outselling either one of the big two, it could probaly take about as long for any new party to get enough support to take power.    -  Not a viable option.

But I believe there is a way.
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