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Question: The water crisis at worst will cause a recession

yes    
  1 (16.7%)
no    
  1 (16.7%)
depending on....    
  1 (16.7%)
a bit hysterical--    
  1 (16.7%)
wont happen    
  0 (0.0%)
Government is too blame    
  2 (33.3%)
Government NOT to blame    
  0 (0.0%)




Total votes: 6
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Water Crisis---"pray for rain"- (Read 17377 times)
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Reply #15 - Apr 26th, 2007 at 5:49pm
 
It is going ahead.

I agree...but it is still a political nightmare.

Rainwater tanks are where the water shortage is most severe - the major cities.

It still won't make a dent in the water problem.
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Reply #16 - Apr 26th, 2007 at 6:24pm
 
As you say 85% of all water used is by industry - maybe it is time to take a closer look at some of their licenses.  Many are foreign owned corporations, often not paying royalties or tax, yet they can drain our water aquafers,  basins and major rivers at little or no cost and send their enormous profits overseas.

Perhaps we should take a closer look at the Greens' water policies:

Ensure that all major water infrastructure systems are in public ownership

Establish funding agreements with the states and territories based on per capita targets for reduction in water consumption and increases in recycling and reuse.

Encourage the states and territories to adopt Water Sensitive Urban Design principles and methods for both new and existing development and infrastructure

Work with the states and territories to:

1. review the impact of climate change on catchments, rivers, wetlands, groundwater       systems and estuaries and ensure that all future planning adequately addresses climate change;

2. implement a Comprehensive, Adequate and Representative (CAR) system of reserves for Australia’s unique and high conservation value freshwater ecosystems, and fully protect rivers that still have natural flow regimes

3. implement integrated catchment management planning and establish environmental flow targets for all catchments on a national basis

4. buy back water entitlements in severely degraded and over-allocated systems

5. permit extraction from groundwater systems that do not exceed recharge ratesas determined by a comprehensive hydrogeological assessment; and

6. support the introduction of water recycling measures
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Re: Water Crisis---"pray for rain"-
Reply #17 - Apr 26th, 2007 at 7:08pm
 
Scaly... 
 
You post so well and you cover all the points. 
 
Thank you. 


Oh, did I say that before ? Must be doubly right then  Wink
No man is as clever as the one who agrees with me

Sounds like the greens are going to have LOTS of meetings - imagine all the extra hot air released during those.

Water tanks on houses is a good idea.



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Calls for desalination plant in Adelaide
Reply #18 - May 9th, 2007 at 4:28pm
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Calls-for-desalination-plant-in-Adelaide/2007/05/09/1178390356446.html

The South Australian government must build a desalination plant in Adelaide to secure future water supplies, Opposition Leader Martin Hamilton-Smith says.

Mr Hamilton-Smith on Monday toured the new desalination plant operating in Perth which produces 17 per cent of the city's fresh water.
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Reply #19 - May 9th, 2007 at 10:05pm
 
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Recycling waste water is a political nightmare and considering 85% of water resources are used by industry, I fail to see  a major impact form the use of rainwater tanks...except for the nice warm-fuzzy and the feeling of smugness they give to those that have them

Rainwater tanks mean people have free water, a source of free water which they are personally responsible for This means they can afford for water to be more expensive, as it should be. Rainwater tanks will not be sufficient for industry, not nearly, but if dam water is expensive to use then business will find recycling is a more economic option, you shouldn't need much government interaction to get a meaningful amount of recycling happening in the private sector.
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Secret water deals for NSW rice growers
Reply #21 - Nov 4th, 2007 at 4:40pm
 
This is absurd - special deals for growing rice in the desert in the middle of a drought. The federal government should take control of all water networks that span state borders.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Secret-water-deals-for-NSW-rice-growers/2007/11/04/1194111306554.html

Water meant to protect Victoria's electricity supplies has been traded off to NSW rice growers in secret multimillion-dollar deals with the Snowy Hydro corporation.

Snowy Hydro Ltd and the NSW Department of Water and Energy have been accused of jeopardising the future of electricity outputs, the livelihoods of other irrigators and environmental flows to the Snowy and Murray rivers for short-term profits, Fairfax newspapers report.

The revelation of the secret sales comes as a cross-state deal on the Snowy River made by two former premiers threatens to tear apart the already frayed relations between the states' current premiers.

Former Snowy Mountains engineers and managers say the corporation abandoned established drought strategies, maintaining minimum annual water releases without emptying storages in lakes Eucumbene and Jindabyne.

The engineers estimate Snowy Hydro benefited - by about $160 million - from the special irrigation-deal payments and by bringing forward release revenues.



Qld water restrictions to remain

http://news.smh.com.au/qld-water-restrictions-to-remain/20080206-1qjv.html

Saturated south-east Queensland is still a long way short of water security even though the dams are now almost a third full, says Premier Anna Bligh says.

Ms Bligh ruled out easing tough level six water restrictions across the drought-stricken region despite heavy overnight rain pushing the combined dam level to 31.53 per cent of capacity.

Wivenhoe, Somerset and North Pine dams are at their highest point since June 2006, when Brisbane moved to level three restrictions.

Brisbane Lord Mayor Campbell Newman on Wednesday urged the Queensland Water Commission (QWC) to take Brisbane off level six restrictions.

Ms Bligh said the government would decide by the end of the wet season in March whether to drop its plans for water contingency measures, such as mobile desalination plants.

But Ms Bligh said dam levels needed to climb much higher before any easing would be considered.

Ms Bligh said restrictions would be reviewed when the dams reached "a certain level", hinting the trigger point could be around 40 per cent.

"So if we do see continued rainfall into the dams, and it got into the 40 or 50 per cent area, then a decision ... could be made significantly earlier than the end of the wet season," she said.



Water restrictions lifted on Gold Coast

http://news.smh.com.au/water-restrictions-lifted-on-gold-coast/20080207-1qr0.html

Gold Coast residents will be able to hose their gardens, houses and cars whenever they feel like it after all water restrictions are temporarily lifted from Saturday.

Queensland Water Commission (QWC) chief executive John Bradley said the reprieve will last as long as the Hinze Dam in the Gold Coast hinterland is overflowing its spillway.



Qld aims to wind back water restrictions

http://news.smh.com.au/qld-aims-to-wind-back-water-restrictions/20080211-1rgl.html

The Queensland Water Commission has announced new triggers for the winding back of water restrictions as south-east Queensland dam levels continue to rise.

Commission chair Elizabeth Nosworthy on Monday announced current level six restrictions, in which households are encouraged to use 140 litres per day, will be wound back when combined dam levels reach 40 per cent.

Limited hosing would be allowed under new targets, with individual residents asked to limit water use to 170 litres a day.

Restrictions would be further wound back when dams reached 50 per cent combined capacity, with a new target of 200 litres per day.

Once the dams reached 60 per cent, 230 litres per day would be permitted.
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