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Reply #105 - Aug 27th, 2008 at 6:14pm
 
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Our country was built on multiculturalism, on people from all over the world living together in tolerance and working together to make a better life for themselves. That hasn't changed overnight. Nor has the complaints. People have been making the smae complaints from the beginning. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.


They probably are wrong FD - but over the last few years the balance is shifting too much one way and it is a bit worrying when huge areas of our cities are so asianised that we feel like aliens in our own country of birth.

It would be fine if most of the immigrants and their descendants assimilated - but in many cases they don't and we are just becoming a very divided nation with enclaves of different nationalities who appear to hate each other.
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Reply #106 - Aug 27th, 2008 at 6:25pm
 
Australia used to have genuine problems with enclaves, but they inevitably assimilated, as will the current ones. These days you have to go looking to find an actual problem.
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Reply #107 - Aug 29th, 2008 at 9:18am
 
Crap

We were until mid last century basically British.

If we were truly Multicultural there would have been no need for such a foolish policy.

It breeds division, it supports diversity of culture at the expense of the national culture.  It fosters disharmony within a society a proven fact by scientific study.

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Reply #108 - Aug 29th, 2008 at 9:32am
 
We were until mid last century basically British.

Crap. We had large numbers of people from other European countries, many living in 'enclaves'. We also had plenty of Asians.
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Reply #109 - Aug 30th, 2008 at 5:04pm
 
Living in denial of our history and culture still I see fd.
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Reply #110 - Aug 30th, 2008 at 5:06pm
 
Ah...  no it wasn't.
It was built on the british culture, which is why we speak English have their system of government and laws etc, etc, etc...
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Reply #111 - Aug 30th, 2008 at 6:04pm
 
Culture didn't build this country. Immigrants did. Australian culture is not British culture.
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Reply #112 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 10:32am
 
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If you cant win, cant be right... create a strawman eh fd.
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Reply #113 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 11:01am
 
How is that a strawman?
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Reply #114 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 11:08am
 
rotflmao

Suddenly culture is totally irrelevant to you...  and you fail to recognise it's part in nation-building.

The British built this country, it is based on british culture.  easily recognised and proven historically and anecdotally.

Your strawman tries to turn what I originally said into something else.  By negating the word culture and the nationality involved then claiming that we don't have a british culture...  something I didn't say we had.  hence strawman.
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Reply #115 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 12:21pm
 
Australia wasn't built on British culture either. It was built despite Bristish culture.
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Reply #116 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 4:11pm
 
Ah no it wasn't...  are you an anglophobe or what?

The british created Australia.  They had more to do with it and direct influence upon it than any other nationality or culture.

Stop living in denial you have nothing to hide behind except your stupidity.
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Reply #117 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 4:31pm
 
British people created Australia (along with other nationalities), not British culture. In creating Australia they forged new cultures and abandoned British culture. Many of them came here to escape British culture.
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Reply #118 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 5:28pm
 
lol  get back to you about your last trash later..

here's a con...

SAUDI PREACHERS INCITING MURDER AT UK MOSQUE UK
Daily Mail 31/8/2008
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1050917/Revealed-Saudi-women-preaching-hate-British-mosque-promised-clean-act-18-months-ago.html

Hardline female 'preachers of hate' are radicalising Muslim women atone of Britain's top mosques. The Saudi Arabian preachers were secretly filmed ordering women tomurder gays and ex-Muslims. Undercover reporters from Channel 4's Dispatches recorded the lectures in the women's section of Regent's Park Mosque in London.

An unnamed Saudi woman is seen mocking other religions – labelling Christianity 'vile' and an 'abomination'. Another, known as'Angelique', claims Britain is a 'land of evil'. The investigators attended lectures for two months at the mosque,which had promised a clean-up after another Dispatches probe just 18months ago exposed it for spreading extreme Islamic views. During one sermon, a woman called Um Amira says: 'He is Muslim, and he gets out of Islam...what are we going to do? We kill him, kill, kill.'

In the programme, to be screened tomorrow, she adds that womenadulterers should be stoned to death and people who have sex beforemarriage should get '100 lashes'. Regent's Park Mosque is one of the biggest and most prestigiousIslamic institutions in the UK. Opened in 1944 by King George VI, itcan hold up to 5,000 worshippers. After the 2007 Dispatches investigation, which also looked at mosques in Birmingham, West Midlands Police and the Crown Prosecution Service(CPS) claimed Channel 4 had distorted sermons and tried to presscharges. But watchdog Ofcom dismissed their findings and Channel 4 won six-figure libel damages from the police and CPS.

This time, Dispatches returned to Regent's Park Mosque to find exactly the same extremist books on sale there and the female preachers spreading radical Wahhabi Islam. One Saudi woman, who mocks other religions, says: 'We feel nothing sometimes going past the church. What they say with their tongues is so vile and disgusting, it's an abomination.' Another female preacher, Um Saleem, says it 'breaks her heart' to see Muslims 'working in banks, wearing short sleeves...and make-up'.

The man in charge of the mosque, Dr Ahmed Al Dubayan, is Islamic Affairs attaché to the Saudi Embassy. Dispatches claims the mosque haslinks to the Saudi government, which it accuses of spending billionsspreading the Wahhabi message. The Saudi Embassy denied this. Dr Al Dubayan said he did not know the preachers in the documentaryand claimed the mosque 'does not support or condone extreme views'.

Gotta love Multiculti...  right???????
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Reply #119 - Aug 31st, 2008 at 5:30pm
 
Multiculturalism is not responsible for that.
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