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muso

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Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons
Reply #135 - Aug 3^rd, 2010 at 2:31pm

... wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2010 at 2:27pm:

muso wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2010 at 2:25pm:

We're all 'cross-bred' for what it's worth. Human races are a relatively modern phenomenon also. We are all Homo sapiens sapiens, and even though some of us have different coloured hair or skin, it's a highly subjective thing.

These pictures from Xinjiang Province, China (near the bottom of the page) illustrate that it's not as clear-cut as some people make out. You could easily mistake some Uyghurs for Scandinavians or Irish.

http://pastmists.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/xinjiang/

Yep, and a chihuahua and a pit bull are both the same species too....but ya wouldn't put a chihuahua into a dog fight.

homo (genus) sapiens (species) sapiens (race)

It's a taxonomic classification. I didn't invent it.

The first sapiens is the species level. The second one is the race level.

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Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons
Reply #136 - Feb 6^th, 2011 at 3:37am

muso wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2010 at 2:25pm:

We're all 'cross-bred' for what it's worth. Human races are a relatively modern phenomenon also. We are all Homo sapiens sapiens, and even though some of us have different coloured hair or skin, it's a highly subjective thing.

These pictures from Xinjiang Province, China (near the bottom of the page) illustrate that it's not as clear-cut as some people make out. You could easily mistake some Uyghurs for Scandinavians or Irish.

http://pastmists.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/xinjiang/

The one with the gold headwear looks like a relative of mine from Scotland.

Most of these are still very asiatic.

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Total anti-marxist and anti-left wing. The Right is Right.&&&&&&

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asylum attitudes New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15	Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons Reply #137 - May 18^th, 2011 at 11:53am Would any of you be interested in taking part in my Psychology research into attitudes towards asylum seekers?
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asylum attitudes New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15	Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons Reply #138 - May 18^th, 2011 at 11:53am It would only take about 10 minutes to do and your views would be really helpful.
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DILLIGAF Gold Member Offline Posts: 1259 The greens are red Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons Reply #139 - May 19^th, 2011 at 10:43pm Gillard, would you shut the bugger up please?
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Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons
Reply #140 - May 19^th, 2011 at 11:17pm

Had to laugh at the bigoted woman who asked a loaded rhetorical question of Gillard at tonight's televised community forum in SA...

In a very thick residual accent, she suggested that multiculturalism didn't work...

I'm surprised that somebody didn't stand up and tell her to take her foreign birth certificate and bugger off then!

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Lamenting the shift in the Australian psyche, away from the egalitarian ideal of the fair-go - and the rise of short-sighted pollies, who worship the 'Growth Fairy' and seek to divide and conquer!

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Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons
Reply #141 - May 20^th, 2011 at 9:07am

Equitist wrote on May 19^th, 2011 at 11:17pm:

Had to laugh at the bigoted woman who asked a loaded rhetorical question of Gillard at tonight's televised community forum in SA...

In a very thick residual accent, she suggested that multiculturalism didn't work...

I'm surprised that somebody didn't stand up and tell her to take her foreign birth certificate and bugger off then!

Having an accent and being culturally hostile or separatist are two different things, yingy-yangy person. But you wouldn't understand the first thing about almost anything so no surprise here, either.

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Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons
Reply #142 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 1:13pm

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Multiculturalism

Cons:
1) Alienates people.
2) Riots.
3) Political correctness gone crazy (ie. Banning bibles in hospitals).
4) Community division.
5) Causes family breakdown.
6) Increased crime levels.
7) Creates ethnic gangs.
8) Cultural apartheid.
9) Social disharmony.
10) Language difficulties.
11) Money being sent back-home (Ethnics former home).
12) Importation of extra foreign goods.
13) Gross waste of taxpayers money.
14) Empire building.
15) Security risk.
16) Increased unwanted immigration.
17) Increased welfare bill.
18) Dilution or death of the Australian culture.
19) Conflicting belief systems.
20) Pandering to minorities.
21) Racism.
22) Cultural relativism.
23) Promotes tolerance not acceptance.

Pros:
1) Larger variety of food.
2) Provides jobs for rich bureaucrats and Government officials.

Feel free to add to this list.

10 pages and no new 'pros' to add to the list.

but yeah, it's definitely a good thing. Noone can say whats good about it, but it's gotta be good..It just HAS to be....PMSL.

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In the fullness of time...

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons Reply #143 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 1:47pm freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2007 at 3:06pm: pro - there are fewer riots in multicultural societies LOL. Yeah the recent london riots kinda disproves that.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons Reply #144 - Aug 26^th, 2011 at 9:47pm Multiculti, like PC, is completely devoid of any cohesive justification. There cannot be an intellectually cohesive defence of either because they do not have an intellectually cohesive basis. To speak the language of today's youth, multiculti and PC are , like, totally random.
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Re: Australia 'has cultural edge' over US
Reply #145 - Sep 15^th, 2012 at 10:49pm

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Australia has an advantage over the United States in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts because of an affinity with foreign cultures, a US strategic analyst says.

So thats the solution to national disputes? to import their civilian population into your nation, altering your nations makeup and identity and becoming more like that foreign nation. Ever heard of a translator? or an embassy?

Imagine the immigration minister justifying immigration from a certain nation
"well we dont really get along with [Insert country here] at the moment, and they are hostile to us, with absolutely nothing in common, so if we import 200 thousand of their people as permanent residents, it may build closer ties"

I think that posters signature is appropriate right about now

"“Tolerance is the virtue of men who no longer believe in anything.”
– G.K. Chesterton"

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Bowen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 703 Gender:	Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons Reply #146 - Oct 30^th, 2012 at 10:29pm I want to ask some questions to the guys who against Multiculturalism. Do you respect the Freedom of thought, conscience and religion? Freedom of thought, conscience and religion is an important part of human rights. If sure, how can you attempt to ban different cultures?
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Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons
Reply #147 - Oct 30^th, 2012 at 11:11pm

Bowen wrote on Oct 30^th, 2012 at 10:29pm:

I want to ask some questions to the guys who against Multiculturalism.

Do you respect the Freedom of thought, conscience and religion?

Freedom of thought, conscience and religion is an important part of human rights.

If sure, how can you attempt to ban different cultures?

Bowen,

The right of every person, to continue to breathe, is also a 'human right'.

Bowen,

Do you respect the right to 'freedom of religion', where a certain 'religion' encourages its members [as a doctrine of its religion] to murder those, who do not believe as they believe ?

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London, moslem street protests.
Moslems demanding their right to exercise their 'freedom of religion', to kill people who disagree with their religion.

IMO, TOLERANCE OF 'MULTICULTURALISM' SHOULD NOT EXTEND, to allowing the members of another culture [e.g. ISLAM] to live with us, in this country, when moslems intend to engage in criminal activities against people who do not follow, or agree, with their ISLAMIC culture, EVEN IF THEIR ISLAMIC CULTURE 'LAWFULLY' ALLOWS SUCH CRIMINALITY.

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Mainstream ISLAM gives a 'lawful' sanction to moslems, to intimidate, to persecute, to threaten, to fight against, and to murder, those persons who reject ISLAM.

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

IMO, ISLAM is an 'organisation', a philosophy, which promotes criminality [by our laws], in its own followers.

And imo, a moslem is a member of a criminal organisation called 'ISLAM'.

IMO, every moslem in Australia [and indeed, every good moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.

And imo, every non-moslem should be made aware and recognise, that ISLAM is in fact, a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'].

IMO, respecting another persons right to 'freedom of religion', does NOT extend, to allowing persons to follow a religion [in my country], which criminally persecutes people who do not believe, what he [a moslem] believes.

IMO, the right to 'freedom of religion', does NOT extend, to give a 'lawful' sanction to moslems, to intimidate, to persecute, to threaten, to fight against, and to murder, those persons who reject ISLAM.[/highlight][/size]

IMO, behaviour like this [below] should not be tolerated, in Australia.

If i could, i would lock these people away for 50 years, OR, give them the option to leave Australia.

Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems >> PUBLICLY << stating, that they really are violently intolerant, of any world-view which does not coincide with their own world-view.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Multiculturalism - Pros and Cons
Reply #148 - Oct 30^th, 2012 at 11:25pm

Good, you got the point.

"encouraging its members [as a doctrine of its religion] to murder those, who do not believe as they believe." is not the part of Freedom of Religions.

I am against these actions too.

However, Multiculturalism is to protect the Freedom of Religions not these actions.

Every religions have extreme members.

Spreading different cultures in peace should be protected. But violence or agitating for violence is not under the protection of Multiculturalism.

If what you are against is the violence, please focus on the violence, I will be with you.

But please respect the Freedom of Religions and culture spreading in peace which is the real goal of Multiculturalism.

Yadda wrote on Oct 30^th, 2012 at 11:11pm: