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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Isn't it ironic? Reply #15 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:12pm Gee ... I noticed that too
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Reply #16 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:23pm

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wouldn't it make more sense to take the moral high ground and not stoop to their level? since hate only breeds hate, so by hating them u actually make the situation worse. that's is what Jesus meant when he said "turn the other cheek".

This is a very good point!

I fear that the Muslim part is only half the story, remove the Muslim element and you will still find these people seeking out a minority to defecate on from great heights. Remove all ethnic minorities and no doubt they will find minorities to target within their own 'pure' group.

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Reply #17 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:27pm

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I fear that the Muslim part is only half the story, remove the Muslim element and you will still find these people seeking out a minority to defecate on from great heights. Remove all ethnic minorities and no doubt they will find minorities to target within their own 'pure' group.

Does it ever work to 'turn the other cheek' with bullies in the school playground? In my experience, no.

If you don't stand up and tackle the issue head-on... it'll never go away.

I'll leave this rhetorical statement for you politically correct wankers to ponder: How can the tolerant tolerate the intolerant?

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Reply #18 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:32pm

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I fear that the Muslim part is only half the story, remove the Muslim element and you will still find these people seeking out a minority to defecate on from great heights. Remove all ethnic minorities and no doubt they will find minorities to target within their own 'pure' group.

I wouldnt call them ''pure'' but yeah we would be targeting communists, anarchists etc.

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Reply #19 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:33pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:27pm:

I'll leave this rhetorical statement for you politically correct wankers to ponder: How can the tolerant tolerate the intolerant?

If you think I'm 'politically correct' then you've got a lot to learn mate. To see the intelligent logical solutions is not to be PC.

The answer is in another question: How do you put out a fire by throwing petrol on it?

The answer to the bully question is to be further up the social ladder than the bully, he won't hit you if you are the coolest in the schoolyard. You were picked on for being the schoolyard loser weren't you trump? Grin

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Reply #20 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:38pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:27pm:

I'll leave this rhetorical statement for you politically correct wankers to ponder: How can the tolerant tolerate the intolerant?

by not tolerating the intolerant, u can no longer call urself tolerant.
that's a tongue twister. basically, u can't say that ur tolerant if u return the favour and hate them back.

do u understand now?

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Reply #21 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:39pm

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I wouldnt call them ''pure'' but yeah we would be targeting communists, anarchists etc.

So you're an intolerant bigot who must project his own deep self-loathing onto his surroundings. thank you for your admission.

This mentality will never be at peace with anything, clearly by your own words you seek out conflict with others endlessly and thus your arguments regarding Muslims are utterly meaningless when considered in the context of your personal philosophy.

What confounds me 'nationalist' is that your views are anything but nationalistic in every way. Australia is a place of freedom of speech and expression, and yet you regard this highly held national value with contempt. I shall hereby call you "Aussie Noodle".

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Reply #22 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:51pm

zoso wrote on Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:39pm:

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I wouldnt call them ''pure'' but yeah we would be targeting communists, anarchists etc.

So you're an intolerant bigot who must project his own deep self-loathing onto his surroundings. thank you for your admission.

This mentality will never be at peace with anything, clearly by your own words you seek out conflict with others endlessly and thus your arguments regarding Muslims are utterly meaningless when considered in the context of your personal philosophy.

What confounds me 'nationalist' is that your views are anything but nationalistic in every way. Australia is a place of freedom of speech and expression, and yet you regard this highly held national value with contempt. I shall hereby call you "Aussie Noodle".

Glad to see you are still on your high horse zoso.

Communists/socialists and anarchists are just as bad for society as islam.
They all will send us back into the stone age.
After they are gone, im happy.

Have i ever said i see the asians as a threat?? NO. so there goes your theory of bigotry.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48830 At my desk.	Re: Isn't it ironic? Reply #23 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 3:54pm Have i ever said i see the asians as a threat?? NO. so there goes your theory of bigotry. Tolerating only some minority groups does not mean you aren't a bigot.
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Reply #24 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 4:03pm

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Communists/socialists and anarchists are just as bad for society as islam.
They all will send us back into the stone age.
After they are gone, im happy.

And like your own opinions, all of these examples are free to be expressed in our country, whether they are good or not is irrelevant it is the freedom that counts. Remembering that 'expression' and 'actuality' are very different things.

Freedom of speech is a strongly held Australian value, Aussie Noodle. One you seem to enjoy utilising. Tell me, if these groups you identify have their freedom of expression stripped from them, who is to say you should not have the freedom to express your noodle views stripped from you?

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zoso Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 512	Re: Isn't it ironic? Reply #25 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 4:05pm Quote: Glad to see you are still on your high horse zoso. When you insist on rolling around in the mud, it would be forgivable of you to think I was sitting on high. Oh and I call him steve, steve the steed
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ex-member DonaldTrump Gold Member Offline Oh mere mortals, open your eyes! Posts: 1995 Overseas Gender:	Re: Isn't it ironic? Reply #26 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 4:10pm Quote: The answer to the bully question is to be further up the social ladder than the bully, he won't hit you if you are the coolest in the schoolyard. Pfft. Great solution. Quote: You were picked on for being the schoolyard loser weren't you trump? I guess you got me there.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48830 At my desk.	Re: Isn't it ironic? Reply #27 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 4:10pm This is starting to sound personal again. Please stick to the topic.
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Reply #28 - Mar 16^th, 2007 at 4:23pm

ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Mar 16^th, 2007 at 4:10pm:

Pfft. Great solution. Roll Eyes

It was an analogy to my main point: Our hedonistic capitalist free and liberal society will steal their children away from their strict old world views.

And before you say I'm overly optimistic again, would you consider my point about human drive towards selfishness and hedonism 'optimisitc' ??

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Aussie Nationalist Ex Member Gender:	Re: Isn't it ironic? Reply #29 - Mar 17^th, 2007 at 1:13am Quote: Oh and I call him steve, steve the steed Is that your lover? Sounds like you are passionate!
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