Here is an interesting development.
Has been slowly emerging for some time.
May take a few posts ,as it is long


"Saudi king plans interfaith talks

SAUDI King Abdullah has stunned Middle East watchers by announcing his intention to hold an interfaith conference in Riyadh with Jewish, Christian, and Muslim participation.

The King said the three faiths had to work together "to defend humanity" from harm.

What makes the King's proposal extraordinary is that Saudi Arabia is the most religiously conservative of Muslim countries and bans public prayer by non-Muslim religions, even the import of crosses or Stars of David.

The unprecedented outreach is seen as part of the monarch's efforts to mitigate the influence of hard-line Islamic scholars in his country who teach hatred of the "infidel". Such teachings produced a pool of Saudi jihadists who provided 15 of the 19 terrorists responsible for the September 11 attacks on the US.

King Abdullah, 84, said top clerics backed religious dialogue. He hinted at a desire for interfaith dialogue last November during a historic visit with the Pope in the Vatican when he said talks were needed "to get rid of violence and achieve peace and security for all people". At the time, his remarks were regarded as rhetoric.

The King referred to the meeting with the Pope in his talk this week. He said he intended to ask representatives of the three great monotheistic religions "to sit together with their brothers in faith as we all believe in the same God".

Decrying the weakening of the family system and an increase in atheism, he said "that is unacceptable to all religions, to the Koran, the Torah and the Bible".

His respectful allusions to Judaism and Christianity were unusual in a country where fundamentalist clerics heap scorn on them.

The King gave no indication of when such a conference would be held but suggested he would first discuss the idea with Muslim leaders in other countries. His initiative may also have a political dimension. Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other moderate Arab Sunni countries fear the ascendancy of non-Arab Shia Iran as a dominant force in the region.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, referring this month to Hamas's takeover of the Gaza Strip and the infusion there of Iranian ideology and weaponry, reportedly said: "I now have Iran on my border".

Arab moderates see peace with Israel as a step in building acounterforce to Iran in the region."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23441778-15084,00.html

And the other related article :-
"US's Arab allies snub Syria talks.

MIDDLE Eastern heavyweights have stayed away from this weekend's Arab League summit in Damascus, depriving Syria of the chance it wanted to take centre stage in the latest effort to solve the region's problems.

The partial boycott of the summit, led by Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and Morocco, has widened the split in the region along Arab and Iranian lines. All member states aligned with the US have sent lower-level officials, in a clear slight to Syria, and Lebanon is boycotting the summit altogether.

Angry Syrian officials have said Lebanon is missing a "golden opportunity" to help end to the political deadlock, which it blames on Syria.

But Syrian Foreign Minister Waled Mouallem has accused the US of orchestrating the boycott in a bid to diminish Syria's influence.

The summit starts in Damascus today. Member states will try to advance on three regional flashpoints: Lebanon, relations with Israel and the crisis in the Palestinian territories.

Lebanon looms largest over delegates from the 22 member states; the US and Saudi-aligned countries are determined to remove Syrian influence from civil and military life in the fragile nation, which they fear is inching towards Iranian tutelage.

Moves towards the long-discussed peace talks with Israel are back on the agenda, and delegates are due to debate a six-year-old Arab League initiative to recognise Israel in return for Israeli concessions, the key being a return to the 1967 borders.

"Our position on making peace in the Middle East is clear," Mr Mouallem said, during his summit opening speech.

"We are for a just and comprehensive peace and the principle of land for peace, but we are certain Israel ... is still incapable of having the genuine political will for making peace."

This week, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert suggested secret talks between Jerusalem and Damascus had again taken place. Mr Olmert hinted to foreign reporters in Jerusalem that recent contacts between the two foes had extended beyond sending messages to each other through Turkish envoys.

"I have said I'm prepared to make peace with Syria," Mr Olmert said. "I hope the Syrians are prepared to make peace with Israel, and I hope the circumstances will allow us to sit together. That doesn't mean that when we sit together, you have to see us."

Sporadic talks between the two sides have been mired in four decades of enmity since Israel captured the strategically important Golan Heights from Syria during the 1967 Six Day War.

A proposal to return the Golan to Syria in return for a peace deal, was tabled in Israel yesterday by a senior cabinet minister who said the Government recognised the price it must pay for relations with Damascus. "

'No more mosques' says Synod member
Alison Ruoff claims that building mega-mosques could help turn Britian into an Islamic state Ruth Gledhill
A prominent evangelical member of the Church of England’s General Synod has called for a ban on the building of any more mosques in Britain.

Alison Ruoff also claimed that Sharia law is inevitable in this country if mosques continue to be built here.

Mrs Ruoff, a former magistrate, said in an interview with London’s Premier Christian Radio that no more mosques should be built in Britain until all persecution of Christians in Muslim nations had ceased.

She said: “No more mosques in the UK. We are constantly building new mosques, which are paid for by the money that comes from oil states.

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'No more mosques' says Synod member
“We have only in this country as far as we know, 3.5 to four million Muslims. There are enough mosques for Muslims in this country, they don’t need anymore.

“We don’t need to have Sharia law which would come with more mosques imposed upon our nation, if we don’t watch out, that would happen. If we want to become an Islamic state, this is the way to go.

“You build a mosque and then what happens? You have Muslim people moving into that area, all the shops will then become Islamic, all the housing will then become Islamic and as the Bishop of Rochester has so wisely pointed out, that will be a no-go area for anyone else.

“They will bring in Islamic law. We cannot allow that to happen.”

Dr Michael Nazir-Ali enraged the Muslim community and received death threats against his family when he warned recently that parts of Britain had become no-go areas for non-Muslims.

The subsequent controversial speech on Islamic law by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, coincided with a concern among many of the Church’s other bishops to mollify Britain’s Muslims in the wake of Dr Nazir-Ali’s comments.

Mrs Ruoff, who comes from the same conservative wing of the church as Dr Nazir-Ali, was speaking as Islamic movement Tablighi Jamaat, a missionary group founded in India in the 1920s, continues its campaign to build a 12,000-capacity “mega mosque” in east London in time for the Olympic Games in 2012.

There has been strong opposition from critics who accuse the organisation of a separatist agenda and seeking world domination through Islam. An “anti mega-mosque” Downing Street petition was signed by more than 275,000 people last year, but also drew accusations of being racist and Islamophobic.

Mrs Ruoff, who lives in Waltham Cross, north east London, told Premier Christian Radio: “We are still a Christian country, we need to hold on to that.

“If we don’t watch out, we will become an Islamic state. It’s that serious.”



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3662450.ece

It would be self defeating to aford people "freedoms" when their goal is to quash entirely ours.


"Mrs Ruoff, a former magistrate, said in an interview with London’s Premier Christian Radio that no more mosques should be built in Britain until all persecution of Christians in Muslim nations had ceased. "

Seems quite fair to me.

refusing to allow others the "freedom" to dominate us totally as they do in other countries is hardly tyranny.

More like common sense that only PCers would argue with

yes, only PCers. And their numbers are dwindling by the day too.

If immigrants will not assimilate, chuck them out.
If their agenda is to install their system over ours, chuck them out.
That's our right and our necessity

This guy is good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc&feature=related

no, there are many sorts.
Short, tall, dark haired, blue eyed.
athiests, agnostics, apathetics, apologetics.

Few of those pose a threat to anyyone.

and you have statistics on this ????