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Re: muslim honour
Reply #105 - Jun 14th, 2007 at 10:39pm
 
Oceans_Blue...

In year 12 biology, we were taught that Australia was once filled with rainforests and mega-fauna.

There is much debate whether or not Aboriginals destroyed the rainforests and killed off the megafauna.

Is this not exactly the same as Europeans? After all, Aboriginals were never intelligent enough to record history... apart from dreamtime stories.


A similar story can be said with peoples from Africa.




Anyway... this thread is getting ridiculously off-topic.

Wanna discuss genetics v culture... start a new topic.
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Re: muslim honour
Reply #106 - Jun 14th, 2007 at 10:46pm
 




Cool.  Wink I'm glad you recognise this and I think it's admirable that you've decided to share your studies with us.  Cool No wonder you're so defensive of Aboriginal people.  Tongue

I've heard somewhere that this course doesn't have a very large attendences. Is that accurate? What kind of things do they teach?




I study this subject as part of Social Work..as you can imagine the Indigenous peoples have a lot of social issues and require a lot of support in these areas.

The course provides  a back ground in the culture and history side of things and all social issues arising from that ..ie: alcoholism, dispossession, marginalisation, racial issues and a lot of attitudes , such as displayed here are discussed . It is a critical area of social work , and I hope one day to work in a remote communuty.
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Reply #107 - Jun 14th, 2007 at 10:49pm
 
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 14th, 2007 at 10:39pm:
Oceans_Blue...

In year 12 biology, we were taught that Australia was once filled with rainforests and mega-fauna.

There is much debate whether or not Aboriginals destroyed the rainforests and killed off the megafauna.

Is this not exactly the same as Europeans? After all, Aboriginals were never intelligent enough to record history... apart from dreamtime stories.


A similar story can be said with peoples from Africa.






Anyway... this thread is getting ridiculously off-topic.

Wanna discuss genetics v culture... start a new topic.



my guest posting btw.

I thought  I WAS on topic...got to difficult..oh well? Huh
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Re: muslim honour
Reply #108 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 12:19am
 
oceanz wrote on Jun 14th, 2007 at 10:49pm:
ex-member DonaldTrump wrote on Jun 14th, 2007 at 10:39pm:
Oceans_Blue...

In year 12 biology, we were taught that Australia was once filled with rainforests and mega-fauna.

There is much debate whether or not Aboriginals destroyed the rainforests and killed off the megafauna.

Is this not exactly the same as Europeans? After all, Aboriginals were never intelligent enough to record history... apart from dreamtime stories.


A similar story can be said with peoples from Africa.






Anyway... this thread is getting ridiculously off-topic.

Wanna discuss genetics v culture... start a new topic.



my guest posting btw.

I thought  I WAS on topic...got to difficult..oh well? Huh



And I was on topic..for the topic had taken a big turn per se., not of my doing.

You know I find it dissapointing that you are all going at it 'hammer and tongs ' discussing genetics and culture and then along comes I with a different challenge and veiw point and its pick up your bat and ball and go home?..

mmmm wheres the fair play there?. I thought you were the guys who rose to a challenge ?....and it(the thread)  was way off topic before I ever came into it , if you'd care too check. Huh







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Reply #109 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 12:30am
 
Blah Blah Blah............. all men were created equal--------------  Sure,,,,,,,,
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Re: muslim honour
Reply #110 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 12:34am
 
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And I was on topic..for the topic had taken a big turn per se., not of my doing.

You know I find it dissapointing that you are all going at it 'hammer and tongs ' discussing genetics and culture and then along comes I with a different challenge and veiw point and its pick up your bat and ball and go home?..

mmmm wheres the fair play there?. I thought you were the guys who rose to a challenge ?....and it(the thread)  was way off topic before I ever came into it , if you'd care too check. Huh



Ocean_blue... trust me when I say this... you're over-complimenting yourself if you think I'm trying to change the topic just because of your politically correct viewpoint and that I 'don't have an answer for it.' I have a million and one counters to it but I choose not to do it, because this thread began as one about 'muslim honour killings' to a thread about 'Aboriginals and genetics.' That's off-topic.

It has nothing to do with you entering the debate... I'm just fed up with the topic going nowhere. IF... you really want to continue this thread... go ahead... answer my previous points:

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In year 12 biology, we were taught that Australia was once filled with rainforests and mega-fauna.  

There is much debate whether or not Aboriginals destroyed the rainforests and killed off the megafauna.  

Is this not exactly the same as Europeans? After all, Aboriginals were never intelligent enough to record history... apart from dreamtime stories.  

A similar story can be said with peoples from Africa.  
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Re: muslim honour
Reply #111 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 9:52am
 
No Donald..

We are both right it is off topic and the topic was important.

Anyway have a great day..and Aus Nat..I think your grouse. Debate is debate and has nothing to do with how I feel about you as a person ok?    Kiss Kiss Smiley


You know you can pm me if you have anything you want to say.

Love Oceans.
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Reply #112 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 11:21am
 
OK, I'll respond to the socialist stuff and start a new thread on the race stuff.

Negative or positive publicity, freediver?

I thought it was positive. It raised awareness of the research and the critics didn't manage to land and blows, because the researcher was not being racist.

WELL bugger ME DEAD FREEDIVER, YOUR THE ONE THAT GOT INTO THIS DEBATE!!! EITHER YOU GIVE ME SOME EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR ARGUMENT OR GET THE HELL OFF THIS THREAD. Seriously, you're starting to really annoy me with, freediver. 

You're the one who brought up the conspiracy theory. Why is it my responsibility to provide evidence?

You: I couldn't be bothered looking it up, because this debate is stupid and it would just be SOOO easy to prove you wrong that it's not even worth it.

I didn't say it would be easy. It would be tedious. If it qwas easy I would have done it.

None of the evidence you supplied about socialists backs up your original claim. Some even contradict it.
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Re: muslim honour
Reply #113 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 8:19pm
 
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You're the one who brought up the conspiracy theory. Why is it my responsibility to provide evidence?


OMFG... what part of.... "You challenged my view" don't you get, freediver?

Well normally freediver if you enter a thread and challenge a viewpoint, I'd like to see some evidence rather than just sarcastic remarks.

When you challenge a viewpoint, you normally need evidence to back it up.

You entered this debate whether you like it or not. It's now your responsibility to counter. If you can't, then bugger off. You lost.


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None of the evidence you supplied about socialists backs up your original claim. Some even contradict it.


Care to explain how?


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I didn't say it would be easy. It would be tedious. If it qwas easy I would have done it.


Right... so if you're not sure about the topic you're arguing, then why are you bothering?

Oh... of course... that's right... because it's 'common knowledge' that there's no such thing as race and that all the 'scientists' have already proven that race does not mean a thing.  Roll Eyes Therefore, anyone who argues against it is a 'nutcase.'  Grin
They used to say the same thing about the earth being round, jack-@ss.

-Care to name a few of these scientists, freediver?
-Care to show definitive proof that there is no such thing as race or that race has no effect on behaviour due to genetic differences? Perhaps a feel-good article by Oprah Winfrey?  Grin

Do you believe everything you read in the newspaper, freediver? Something tells me you do.
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Re: muslim honour
Reply #114 - Jun 15th, 2007 at 8:21pm
 
oceanz wrote on Jun 15th, 2007 at 9:52am:
No Donald..

We are both right it is off topic and the topic was important.

Anyway have a great day...


Yeah... I agree.

You too.

PS. Yes... Ausnat needs to open a beer and chill.
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Reply #115 - Jun 16th, 2007 at 12:14pm
 
OMFG... what part of.... "You challenged my view" don't you get, freediver?

That doesn't mean it is my place to dig up evidence. I challenged your view by pointing out you had no evidence.

When you challenge a viewpoint, you normally need evidence to back it up.

Not if the original view has no evidence to begin with.

Care to explain how? 

Finding a few communists in Universities does not back up your claim. I could just as easily find Labor and Liberal supporters and racists at universities. All parties recruit heavily on campus. This was your original claim:

It's a well-known fact that most communists and socialist party members are 'academics' at Universities... and have been since the 1950's and 60's.

-Care to name a few of these scientists, freediver? 
-Care to show definitive proof that there is no such thing as race or that race has no effect on behaviour due to genetic differences? Perhaps a feel-good article by Oprah Winfrey?


DT, it wasn't me making those claims.
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Reply #116 - Jun 17th, 2007 at 4:21pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2007 at 12:14pm:
OMFG... what part of.... "You challenged my view" don't you get, freediver?

That doesn't mean it is my place to dig up evidence. I challenged your view by pointing out you had no evidence.

When you challenge a viewpoint, you normally need evidence to back it up.

Not if the original view has no evidence to begin with.

Care to explain how?  

Finding a few communists in Universities does not back up your claim. I could just as easily find Labor and Liberal supporters and racists at universities. All parties recruit heavily on campus. This was your original claim:

It's a well-known fact that most communists and socialist party members are 'academics' at Universities... and have been since the 1950's and 60's.

-Care to name a few of these scientists, freediver?  
-Care to show definitive proof that there is no such thing as race or that race has no effect on behaviour due to genetic differences? Perhaps a feel-good article by Oprah Winfrey?


DT, it wasn't me making those claims.


You're an idiot freediver... pure and simple. Bye for now.
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Reply #117 - Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:45pm
 
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Reply #118 - Jun 19th, 2007 at 10:47pm
 
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Re: Muslim countries have low rates of adultery
Reply #119 - Jun 20th, 2007 at 9:45am
 
Of course they would have lower rates of adultery, if a law is very strict and the punishment is severe then people would think twice about commiting crimes. And personally, adultery is a terrible thing to do, and it's not a victimless crime like some people think, the victim is actually the partner who was betrayed. I know that since my ex-girlfriend went off with another guy. i felt like crap. 

But several religions order the death penalty for adultery, it's not just limited to islam. i'm pretty sure the Old Testament says it somewhere as well, just because the people don't practise it today doesn't mean the religion doesn't preach it.
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