Sprint, I am merely pointing out that there is no need to take get hung up on superficial differences. We do not have to assimilate. Neither do they. We all just need to get over our own egos.

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Well, I recogise that many things are cultural differences with Muslims. And I'm still offended. What now? More tolerance?


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Yes... that's why I'm starting this conversation on this forum... to make Muslims aware of how rude they are and how much it makes me dislike them. Maybe I should inform them next time? -Get it out in the open to make them aware of it? Get fired?


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Man... 'an open mind' can only go so far before it just becomes downright stupidity and destructive freediver.

DT what's stupid is getting all upset over what are just petty cultural differences. Just get over it already. It won't hurt.

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I just know... okay? Body language... voice tone... etc etc etc. Trust me... it wasn't me who causes the problems. Is it that hard to believe?


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I really don't think so. Like I said... they acted that way even before I realised they were there.


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Well... in Victoria... we have a little something called the religious and racial vilification laws... where IF I did speak out about it (Muslims etc)... or answered back to these guys...
A) I'd get sued by them or get some kind of fine by the Government if reported (I wouldn't put it past money grubbing peopel like that).
B) I'd get the sack.

That's my predicament. I would seriously think about replying to them and explaining that you shouldn't act like that i Australia... unfortunately.. they'd complain to the boss and Id get sacked... or... I'd have to put up with a screaming Muslim accusing me of being racist for about two hours and copping abuse from all of their relatives and getting death threats occasionally from all their relatives (trust me... they come in numbers).

That's the way it is in Victoria. At least people in NSW can speak out about things like this. I live in a dictatorship state.

freediver - cultural differences huh ??

"ISLAMIST terrorists arrested in Germany were planning a September 11 bloodbath at airports and US bases on the sixth anniversary of the carnage in America, authorities say.
Prosecutors and police painted a picture of a ruthless cell of al-Qaeda-linked fanatics willing to die in suicide attacks with bombs far more powerful than those that blew apart London buses and trains in 2005."
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/germans-arrest-three-over-terror/2007/09/05/1188783317805.html



"DANISH police have arrested eight young Muslims on suspicion of plotting a bomb attack and having links with al-Qaeda.
Jakob Scharf, director of the police Security Intelligence Service, did not say what the alleged target was. But he said it was the first direct al-Qaeda connection discovered in Denmark."
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/danish-alqaeda-claims/2007/09/05/1188783317814.html


Tell us about how the lack of assimilatin again

We should make the known muslim society pay for our expenses to defend outrselves against them.
For the damages caused. Just like any criminal case.

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Fair enough... that's why I starteed this thread... to see if my posiition is unique.  But what I'm hearing from everywhere else (Not on this forum so far.. apart from sprint)... it seems to back up what I'm seeing.
Do you interact with them in any other way than observing them talking with other people and watching them go to the beach?

The ones I intereact with... DO NOT have Aussie accents... they have very thick, diluted Aussie/Middle Eastern accent. And I'd much prefer hearing the full-on Middle Eastern accent... beccause the hybrid accent sounds absolutely horrible.

The men certainly aren't dressed in the tradional muslim-dress... but they certainly live up to their stereotype wearing something that looks like it came straight out of the movie wog boy. The women however, are dressed full-on (Head to toe burqa). The Muslim children (girls) are extremely well-behaved. But the Muslim boys are the most spoilt little brats with the biggest egos I've ever seen in a child. -No doubt caused by their religion and favouritism of the males.

As far as them letting their kids go around without supervision... I find that pretty reckless. Do you live in a country area or something? Do you consider that a good thing?

Driving fords... meh.


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Thanks. I'm glad you're not biased enough to ignore this point.

On your first point... just becasue I'm aware of people's body language and my own, freediver, it doesn't mean I LIKE or 'don't mind' observing rude behaviour. I don't know why you find this so hard to believe.

I'm not saying you aren't offended. I'm saying that at least in this instance, the problem ultimately lies with you, not them. There is nothing universal to say that their behaviour is rude. It's just different to what you are accustomed to.

The kilt situation is similar (ie not exactly the same) because they are both things that it would be silly to get wound up over.

And what everyone says when anyone ever has any problem with any muslim.  
It's always the nonmuslims fault.

Ever? So when Muslims flew planes into the WTC, people told you we should just get used to it?

probably because everyone is so scared of the beheading fanatics

No. Because we are scared of becoming the beheading fanatic.

legally in vic, noone is allowed to say anything against any muslium at all.

crap

Sprint, it's you and DT that are trying to put all the blame on the muslims. I am just trying to put it into perspective.