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Re: Race and IQ
Reply #390 - May 6^th, 2013 at 1:16pm

Big Dave wrote on May 5^th, 2013 at 1:02pm:

It's scientific fact that the australian aboriginal has the lowest IQ status on earth. Look it up. It's fact that there are varying levels of intelligence amongst races. It's called the Bell Curve.

The Bell cuve has a lot of holes in it and one of the main ones is the premise that the majority of traits relating to IQ is inherited and that IQ is immutable. Research has shown that it is possibloe to lift IQ 20 or 30 point simply by supplying better nutrition to selected individuals. That puts a pretty big hole in your theory. I wonder, if white people had been isolated by the mainstream of humanity for 100,000 years with access to limited natural resources how our IQs would pan out. Much the same I would imagine.

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2311 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Race and IQ Reply #392 - Sep 25^th, 2013 at 6:53pm Are Aryans from India just 'white' folk with somewhat darker skins? If one takes a photograph (old style!) of a group of Indian businessmen then unless they are not wearing western dress, it is impossible to distinguish, from the negative, what their 'race' is.
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Reply #393 - Sep 25^th, 2013 at 7:45pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 6:53pm:

Are Aryans from India just 'white' folk with somewhat darker skins?

If one takes a photograph (old style!) of a group of Indian businessmen then unless they are not wearing western dress, it is impossible to distinguish, from the negative, what their 'race' is.

Yes. Indians have Aryan ancestry running through them. So do some Afghanis, Nepalese, Kurds, Persians (Iranians; in fact, the word Iran is etymologically linked to the word Aryan), and of course the entire continent of Europe and the western side of Russia.

The Aryans, it is argued, originated in the Asian Steppes and dispersed West (these are the Europeans), north (these are the Russians), and south east (Indians, Iranians, Nepalese, Kurds, Afghanis).

The key to their connectedness, is not only physical appearance, but their languages; they are all related.

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Reply #394 - Sep 25^th, 2013 at 7:50pm

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 7:45pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 6:53pm:

Are Aryans from India just 'white' folk with somewhat darker skins?

If one takes a photograph (old style!) of a group of Indian businessmen then unless they are not wearing western dress, it is impossible to distinguish, from the negative, what their 'race' is.

Yes. Indians have Aryan ancestry running through them. So do some Afghanis, Nepalese, Kurds, Persians (Iranians; in fact, the word Iran is etymologically linked to the word Aryan), and of course the entire continent of Europe and the western side of Russia.

The Aryans, it is argued, originated in the Asian Steppes and dispersed West (these are the Europeans), north (these are the Russians), and south east (Indians, Iranians, Nepalese, Kurds, Afghanis).

The key to their connectedness, is not only physical appearance, but their languages; they are all related.

All humans are the same. It isn't rocket science. For some reason some build better countries than others. You work it out?

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Reply #395 - Sep 25^th, 2013 at 8:17pm

Big Dave wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 7:50pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 7:45pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 6:53pm:

Are Aryans from India just 'white' folk with somewhat darker skins?

If one takes a photograph (old style!) of a group of Indian businessmen then unless they are not wearing western dress, it is impossible to distinguish, from the negative, what their 'race' is.

Yes. Indians have Aryan ancestry running through them. So do some Afghanis, Nepalese, Kurds, Persians (Iranians; in fact, the word Iran is etymologically linked to the word Aryan), and of course the entire continent of Europe and the western side of Russia.

The Aryans, it is argued, originated in the Asian Steppes and dispersed West (these are the Europeans), north (these are the Russians), and south east (Indians, Iranians, Nepalese, Kurds, Afghanis).

The key to their connectedness, is not only physical appearance, but their languages; they are all related.

All humans are the same. It isn't rocket science. For some reason some build better countries than others. You work it out?

Are humans the same? That sound like postmodern trendoid talk. Indeed it is trendy talk. We progressives take the multiple and protean nature of man and make him identical in every way. We do it by just stating it and repeating. Then people believe it. It's like magic. Black is white, tall is short, fast is slow.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42453	Re: Race and IQ Reply #396 - Sep 25^th, 2013 at 11:26pm Except genetics show it to be true...
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Reply #397 - Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:32am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 11:26pm:

Except genetics show it to be true... Roll Eyes

That's right, Comrade. "Progressive genetics" has turned white skin into black skin, and vice-versa. Plus, black hair is also now the same as blonde hair. We progressives have also eliminated the difference between strength and weakness, and waking life and sleep. This is progress.

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Reply #398 - Sep 26^th, 2013 at 11:37am

ian wrote on May 6^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Big Dave wrote on May 5^th, 2013 at 1:02pm:

It's scientific fact that the australian aboriginal has the lowest IQ status on earth. Look it up. It's fact that there are varying levels of intelligence amongst races. It's called the Bell Curve.

The Bell cuve has a lot of holes in it and one of the main ones is the premise that the majority of traits relating to IQ is inherited and that IQ is immutable. Research has shown that it is possibloe to lift IQ 20 or 30 point simply by supplying better nutrition to selected individuals. That puts a pretty big hole in your theory. I wonder, if white people had been isolated by the mainstream of humanity for 100,000 years with access to limited natural resources how our IQs would pan out. Much the same I would imagine.

Maybe, but IQ measures abstract reasoning. IQ scores raise each generation as our use of information technology increases. 100 years ago, EVERYONE had correspondingly lower IQ scores.

Give a bushy an Ipad, come back in 5 years, and measure his IQ.

Per capita IQ is an economic measurement, not a genetic one.

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Reply #399 - Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:30pm

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 11:26pm:

Except genetics show it to be true... Roll Eyes

That's right, Comrade. "Progressive genetics" has turned white skin into black skin, and vice-versa. Plus, black hair is also now the same as blonde hair. We progressives have also eliminated the difference between strength and weakness, and waking life and sleep. This is progress.

Still not your "Comrade".

You obviously have no understanding of how genetics works.

I won't waste further time with you. Roll Eyes

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Reply #400 - Sep 26^th, 2013 at 9:13pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 11:37am:

ian wrote on May 6^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Big Dave wrote on May 5^th, 2013 at 1:02pm:

It's scientific fact that the australian aboriginal has the lowest IQ status on earth. Look it up. It's fact that there are varying levels of intelligence amongst races. It's called the Bell Curve.

The Bell cuve has a lot of holes in it and one of the main ones is the premise that the majority of traits relating to IQ is inherited and that IQ is immutable. Research has shown that it is possibloe to lift IQ 20 or 30 point simply by supplying better nutrition to selected individuals. That puts a pretty big hole in your theory. I wonder, if white people had been isolated by the mainstream of humanity for 100,000 years with access to limited natural resources how our IQs would pan out. Much the same I would imagine.

Maybe, but IQ measures abstract reasoning. IQ scores raise each generation as our use of information technology increases. 100 years ago, EVERYONE had correspondingly lower IQ scores.

Give a bushy an Ipad, come back in 5 years, and measure his IQ.

Per capita IQ is an economic measurement, not a genetic one.

Abstract reasoning is part of any IQ test but is not the sole measure of IQ. Many people with autism score very highly on non verbal abstract reasoning tests but poorly on standard IQ tests. IQ resting as a means to itself is useless anyway in my opinion. Technology is making people dumber, not smarter even though they may score higher on standard IQ tests.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42453	Re: Race and IQ Reply #401 - Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:42pm No, technology does not make them dumber. It merely allows the dumb to more easily be seen in forums like this. What technology does is allow people to thinking smarter, they no longer need to burden themselves with stuff that can be more easily consigned to extelligence.
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Reply #402 - Sep 27^th, 2013 at 6:57pm

Big Dave wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 7:50pm:

All humans are the same. It isn't rocket science.

Right, it's not rocket science, it's genetics.

And what a scientific dead end that turned out to be, since it was "discovered" that everyone is the same. If only mastery of cold fusion, time travel and superstring theory came as easily eh?

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Reply #403 - Sep 28^th, 2013 at 11:52am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid wrote on Sep 26^th, 2013 at 8:32am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 25^th, 2013 at 11:26pm:

Except genetics show it to be true... Roll Eyes

That's right, Comrade. "Progressive genetics" has turned white skin into black skin, and vice-versa. Plus, black hair is also now the same as blonde hair. We progressives have also eliminated the difference between strength and weakness, and waking life and sleep. This is progress.

Still not your "Comrade".

You obviously have no understanding of how genetics works.

I won't waste further time with you. Roll Eyes

Genetics is a social construct devised by Brian Ross to subjugate the white man. Racist!

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42453	Re: Race and IQ Reply #404 - Sep 28^th, 2013 at 12:44pm Rather a slow learner, aren't you?
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