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Reply #30 - Jun 28th, 2007 at 3:50pm
 
this is a subjective comment

No it is objective. It has been measured.
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Reply #31 - Jun 28th, 2007 at 4:01pm
 
by whom and or what Freediver?
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Reply #32 - Jun 28th, 2007 at 4:05pm
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_intelligence

Most studies unambiguously find that men as a population are more varied than women in g (i.e. they have a higher variance and therefore there are more men than women at the extremes of ability).
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Reply #33 - Jun 28th, 2007 at 4:22pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2007 at 4:05pm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_intelligence

Most studies unambiguously find that men as a population are more varied than women in g (i.e. they have a higher variance and therefore there are more men than women at the extremes of ability).


1- your link doesnt work

2- and also without reading your link..why just focus on the extremes, even if there were something in what you say?
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Boys and girls 'learn differently'
Reply #34 - Jun 28th, 2007 at 4:25pm
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_intelligence

Because it is the extremes that are relevant to the 'glass ceiling' debate.



http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Boys-and-girls-learn-differently/2007/07/02/1183229020651.html

Boys and girls are different by nature; their brains are different, and they learn in different ways.

But that's no reason for parents to rush out and switch their kids from co-educational to segregated schools, or vice-versa.

The key lies in teaching their teachers about the differences, says American educator Michael Gurian, keynote speaker at a conference this week at Newcastle University in NSW.

The parenting and family expert said the old "nature versus nurture" argument was over.

"What we really need to do is nurture the nature," said Mr Gurian, founder of the Colorado-based Gurian Institute for training and researching how gender affects learning.

"New brain scanning technology clearly illustrates differences in the ways boys and girls react to stimuli, activity and rest, and debunks talk that these differences are simply the result of nurture.
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Call to give dads paternity leave
Reply #35 - Jul 9th, 2007 at 12:07pm
 
I wonder what the party thinks of this proposal:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Call-to-give-dads-paternity-leave/2007/07/09/1183833357405.html

All dads should be paid two weeks paternity leave to improve wellbeing and work productivity, a leading group of policy researchers recommends.

The idea was announced in Sydney at a forum on work-family policy.

Eleven policy leading lights from across Australia made a range of suggestions including allowing workers to choose part-time over full-time work, more work-from-home options and restricting long or unsocial hours.

"A growing body of international research shows that giving workers more say over their work-time arrangements improves the wellbeing of workers and their households," said University of Sydney Work and Family Policy co-convener Dr Elizabeth Hill.



No need to legislate paternity leave: Hockey

http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,23636,22043317-31037,00.html

WORKPLACE Relations Minister Joe Hockey has rejected research showing unsocial work hours are imposing on family life and the suggestion all fathers should have two weeks' paid parental leave.

He says the Federal Government has been making improvements that have eased the pressure on working parents and there is no need to legislate paternity leave.

"The answer is to encourage businesses and encourage employees to look for flexibility, to negotiate flexible arrangements at the workplace and not to go back to the bad old days, which the Labor Party wants where these working relationships are controlled out of the Industrial Relations Commission in Melbourne," he told Sky News.

"It would be unfair to small business in particular to say that they have to pay the money.

"In the last Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) report, 47 per cent of all female employees and 40 per cent of all male employees have access to paid parental leave.

"That's a massive increase over the only other data collected, which was in 2000."
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If chicks ruled the world, it would look much the
Reply #36 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 12:07pm
 
If women controlled the world....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/funny/if-women-controlled-the-world.html

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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21777884-12274,00.html

IF one more person says the world would be a better place if it was ruled by women, I'll scream. Loudly, with lots of unladylike grimaces and flying spit.
Feminists are right to say chicks should fill about half the planet's leadership positions. But claiming this will result in a better, kinder, gentler globe is unmitigated crap, right up there with "I don't usually do this sort of thing on a first date" and (from Brazilian waxers) "it won't grow back for at least six weeks".

Contrary to popular mythology, women are not the fairer sex.

The harsh truth is that they can be as devious, vindictive and violent as the next man.

One of history's most prolific killers was Erzsebet Bathory, a Hungarian countess who tortured and murdered hundreds of girls on her family estate in Transylvania in the 16th century.

Bathory's modus operandi was to slit her victims' throats and bathe in their warm blood, sometimes after setting their pubes on fire.

Very feminine.

No doubt she would have loved a cup of tea and a little chitchat with Katherine Knight from rural NSW. This former abattoir worker was jailed for life in 2001 after stabbing her de facto partner 37 times and then skinning him, boiling his head and baking pieces of his buttocks with vegies.

Very Country Women's Association.

New research shows women are taking a leading role in terrorist attacks and blowing themselves up more often in suicide bombings.

They're also stepping up their involvement in sex crimes, with a disturbing increase in the number of women teachers arrested for inappropriate relationships with kiddies.

(If you're one of those sniggerers who reckons no sexual attention from a woman is ever unwanted by a bloke, put yourself in the place of the teenage boy gang raped with a rolling pin in Sydney in 2005 and imagine how you'd feel about the two girls charged over the attack. My guess is that it wouldn't be hubba-hubba.)
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Re: new party: What Women Want Australia
Reply #37 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 12:57pm
 
There may be a few violent extremist women - but overall it's men who commit the violent sexual crimes.  Just by referring to 2 women who were notorious doesn't mean women are basically violent.

I notice that German gay bloke who used to cut up and eat people after sex wasn't mentioned, nor any of the serial killers who are picked up  on a regular basis.

The reason why notorious women are found shocking is because they are outside the norm - whereas it's just expected that males are generally aggressive.
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Reply #38 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 12:59pm
 
But new research shows women are taking a leading role in terrorist attacks and blowing themselves up more often in suicide bombings.
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Reply #39 - Jul 12th, 2007 at 7:48pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2007 at 12:59pm:
But new research shows women are taking a leading role in terrorist attacks and blowing themselves up more often in suicide bombings.  


that may be to escape from the kitchen and the nagging hubby Habibby and the 25 kids~~ he just goes on and on.,..wont wear his burka and and just cries all the time cos he has to change a few nappies and cop a few gratutitous beatings with a stick.

MEN!!!!


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Reply #40 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 10:07am
 
There is an interesting article in the weekend Australian magazine lamenting the stresses and pressures young girls are under and the unexpected results of equal rights and fast communication (internet, mobiles etc). It claimed that young girls were more tribal than ever before, relying more heavily on their peers for guidance and less on adults - they get a narrower source of information on important issues (including suicide). From 1960 to 2004, the ratio of young men to young women appearing before the NSW children's courts narrowed from 14-1 to 4-1. In a shorter time, official rates of delinquancy for girls rose 4 fold. Violent crime used to make up less than 10% of cases where girls appear before the court. Now it is 30%.

The article also claimed that girls got their first period on average at 16 a century ago and it has dropped to twelve. Is this right, and if so, is it a response to dietary problems, hormonal suppliments in our food chain and water, or stress? I always thought that it used to be younger, due to a poorer diet, and has been increasing.
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Reply #41 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 11:47am
 
As far as the early physical development of girls - this is correct.  It is just taken for granted now that girls reach puberty far quicker than their mothers did.  I always assumed it was the antibiotics in chicken, but perhaps they are fed better from birth than their mothers, grandmothers etc. were.

I'm not sure about the peer group pressure thing - perhaps in very young teens but have seen no sign of this with older teenage girls - they are too busy thinking about boys, working or studying to worry about what their friends may or may not think.

In fact I find teenage girls outwardly far more confident than my generation were - although it's obvious that many of their emotions are in turmoil, but kept fairly well hidden from the public gaze.

They are under a lot of pressure though.  Males these days are usually resignedly accepted if they get into trouble or appear to be hopeless, but young females are expected to be responsible, ambitious, attractive, polite and strong.  There's no acceptance if a female goes off the rails.

Looking at those statistics Freediver, in regard to crime, is very worrying.  All I can put it down to is lax parenting or the parents are too busy to give their children boundaries - but if they are correct - the children of these children will be a huge burden to our society as they will probably grow up without guidelines to being a   healthy and responsible adult.




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Reply #42 - Jul 14th, 2007 at 11:10pm
 
I put it down to the fact that females are now being held responsible for their own actions.

The assumption ued to be that "girls" were good, whatever they did.
people are now moreso judged on what they do, not how rapidly they can lie and decieve.

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ALP 'lets women down on maternity leave'
Reply #43 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 11:04am
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking-news/alp-lets-women-down-on-maternity-leave/2007/07/22/1185042924658.html

Labor's admission that paid maternity leave is too expensive to legislate means both the opposition and the coalition government are letting women down, the Greens say.

Labor's human resources spokeswoman Tanya Plibersek said her party had looked at measures for young families but found them too expensive to turn into policy.

"We'd love to do as much as possible for families with young children but we're looking at something that is potentially extremely expensive," Ms Plibersek told the Ten Network.
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Reply #44 - Jul 29th, 2007 at 11:24pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2007 at 11:33am:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/New-political-party-for-women-launched/2007/06/28/1182624038705.html

A new political party is set to contest this year's federal election with one clear goal - giving women a voice.

The What Women Want Australia (WWW) party, launched in Brisbane, said it wanted to improve Australian political life and policy by involving more women.

WWW founder, mother-of-six Justine Caines, said there was a lot of talk about women taking a greater role in politics but little was being done.

"The major parties behave like boys' clubs and despite some wonderful female MPs the role of women in Australian life needs to be enhanced," Ms Caines said in a statement.

Ms Caines said women mostly wanted what they needed.

"Issues such as supportive maternity care, paid maternity leave, access to quality childcare and support for carers are seen as 'soft issues' and do not receive the monetary support they deserve," she said.


I understand they are anti-Nuclear and so therefore I will put them one for the chance!
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