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Reply #30 - Jul 2nd, 2007 at 3:11pm
 
it is highly discriminatory

So are your ideas about banning belief systems.

we are protecting children in the communities

Muslims are just trying to protect your soul.
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Reply #31 - Jul 2nd, 2007 at 6:30pm
 
Quote:
Muslims are just trying to protect your soul.


Which is an imaginary thing.  They intend to RULE your life.
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Reply #32 - Jul 6th, 2007 at 2:22pm
 
A short list of muslim terrorist doctors  ...

* Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri--Al-Qaeda mastermind and number two man, reportedly a surgeon and/or psychiatrist;

* Dr. Mohammad Rabi Al-Zawahiri--Ayman's father and a Muslim Brotherhood enthusiast, pharmacologist and professor at Ain Shams Medical School;

* Dr. "Abu Hafiza"--Al-Qaeda master planner who was the brains and commander of the Moroccan cell that provided logistics for the 9/11 attacks, and he recruited Qaeda insurgents for battles in Fallujah, Moroccan psychiatrist;

* Dr. Abdel Aziz Al-Rantisi--Late HAMAS leader, pediatrician;

* Dr. Mahmoud Al-Zahar--HAMAS co-founder and leader, surgeon and lecturer at the Islamic University in Gaza;

* Dr. Fathi Abd Al-Aziz Shiqaqi--Late founder of Islamic Jihad and active in Fatah, physician;

* Dr. George Habash--Founder and chief of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), pediatrician (which is interesting since he rocketed a school bus full of children in Avivim, Israel;

* Dr. Bashar Assad--President of Terror-sponsor state Syria, welcoming home to every Islamic terrorist group imaginable, ophthalmologist;

* Dr. Rafiq Sabir--Boca Raton emergency room physician convicted in Al-Qaeda terrorist plot, pledging to treat and train terrorists, along with a New York martial arts expert;

* Drs. Laila Al-Marayati and Riad Abdelkarim--Both work with and/or are top officials of KinderUSA (son of the Holy Land Foundation), which Al-Marayati voluntarily shutdown before the FBI did, as it was openly funding HAMAS "martyrs." Abdelkarim went to "Palestine" in May or so of 2002 with Dr. Dallel Mohammed (not an MD). They took monies collected at an April 2002 fundraiser and were caught by Israeli security handing over the funds to a HAMAS operative. They were detained in an Israeli jail, and a large orgy of publicity ensued. The two came back to the U.S. as Muslim "martyrs" used it to raise money for more.

* Dr. Mohammed Jamil Abdelqader Asha--a 26-year-old neurologist who was arrested and is in custody as a suspect in the attempted London bombings, foiled Friday. He was born in Saudi Arabia, is of Palestinian origin, and has a Jordanian passport. His 27-year-old wife, a medical assistant, was also arrested for the foiled bombings;

* Dr. Bilal Talal Abdul Samad Abdulla--an Iraqi from Baghdad who was also arrested and is in custody as a suspect in the attempted Glasgow International Airport bombing, foiled Saturday. He was reportedly in the Jeep that drove into the airport, and is suffering from third-degree burns;

* Dr. Mohammed Haneef--an Indian Muslim arrested in Australia on Monday night in custody as a suspect in the attempted British terrorist bombing plots of last week;and

* The rest of the EIGHT Muslim Doctor(s) arrested as suspects in the British bombing plots of last week.

Dr  Osama Ahmed Ibrahim, MD, who deliberately let Jewish patient Joseph Applebaum die, by neglecting to ever see him in over 12 hours under his care in an emergency room at a Chicago hospital, Rush North Shore Medical Center.


Just for our perusal
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Arrests have weakened us, JI head admits
Reply #33 - Jul 30th, 2007 at 11:08am
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking-news/arrests-have-weakened-us-ji-head-admits/2007/07/29/1185647728257.html

The captured head of Jemaah Islamiah's military wing denies an attack is imminent, and admits the terror network has been weakened by a recent string of high-profile arrests.

But Abu Dujana, captured last month in a series of raids by Indonesia's elite anti-terror squad, said the South East Asian network remained a force to be reckoned with, albeit a smaller one, and was continuing to recruit members.

Anyone who attacked Islam was a potential target.



Jihad Jack control order ruled valid

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Jihad-Jack-control-order-ruled-valid/2007/08/02/1185648021094.html

The High Court of Australia has ruled it is constitutionally valid for the federal government to impose a control order on a man, Jack Thomas - known as Jihad Jack - who was cleared of terror charges but judged to still pose a potential terrorist threat.
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EU Terrorism Situation & Trend Report
Reply #34 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 9:17am
 
hi all, i found this really interesting report from the European Union on terrorist attacks committed in Europe during 2006. Refer to the following link:

http://www.europol.europa.eu/publications/TESAT/TESAT2007.pdf

the interesting part in on page 13 of the report, which states that a total of 498 terrorist attacks were committed in Europe during 2006. Those 498 attacks are broken up as follows:
* Separatist - 424 attacks
* Left Wing - 55 attacks
* Right Wing - 1 attack
* Islamic - 1 attack
* Other/Non-Specified - 17 attacks

it's interesting because some people have the impression that all terrorists are Islamic. Based on this report, that's clearly not the case.
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Re: EU Terrorism Situation & Trend Report
Reply #35 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 9:46am
 
Thanks skeptic, that really says it all. Some people like to blow certain issues way out of proportion.
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Re: EU Terrorism Situation & Trend Report
Reply #36 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 9:58am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2007 at 9:46am:
Thanks skeptic, that really says it all. Some people like to blow certain issues way out of proportion.


no worries, yeah that's why i posted it since alot of people assume that all terrorist attacks are caused by muslims.

but do u know what's the weird part? i never heard anything in the news about the separtist, or left/right wing terrorist attacks. why weren't they mentioned?
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Reply #37 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 10:02am
 
Maybe because they are smaller, plus some of these issues have been going on for so long they are no longer newsworthy. When the Catholics and Protestants were bombing each other in Northern Ireland you never even heard about it, even when they let of bombs in London.
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Reply #38 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 11:14am
 
Afghanistan attacks kill 15Article from: Agence France-PresseFont size: Decrease Increase Email article: Email Print article: Print From correspondents in Kabul
July 19, 2007 07:20am

TALIBAN suicide bombings and attacks left more than 15 people dead in Afghanistan, officials said today as Britain urged its NATO allies to commit more troops to avoid the country failing.

One of the suicide blasts targeted Turkish NATO soldiers in the capital Kabul, wounding a member of the Turkish special forces and an Afghan civilian, Afghan officials and the foreign ministry in Ankara said.

The ministry said the bomber "apparently tried to enter an armoured vehicle in the Turkish convoy, but failed since the doors were locked and blew himself up next to the vehicle".

The remains and torn-off limbs of the attacker lay scattered at the blast site in western Kabul, an AFP reporter witnessed.

Another suicide bomber, wearing a police uniform, blew himself up at a provincial police headquarters in southeastern Afghanistan's Khost city, killing three policemen and a civilian and wounding eight others, police said.

The bomber and another militant in the same disguise approached the gates of the building and one opened fire at police guards.

Officers returned fire, killing one attacker, and the second blew himself up, they said.

Separately, a police convoy on the Kandahar-Kabul road was hit by gunfire and rocket propelled grenades from insurgents in the southern province of Zabul, killing six police, provincial police chief General Mohammad Yaqub said.

Gen Yaqub blamed the killings on the "enemies of Afghanistan", a term often used by authorities to refer to the Taliban militants who were forced from power in late 2001 by the US-led invasion that followed the September 11 attacks.

Another policeman was killed overnight in a clash in eastern Nuristan province, governor Tamim Nuristani said, denying Taliban claims that the rebels had captured the two districts.

Taliban rebels also attacked a private road construction company today in southeastern Paktia province, killing an Afghan and a Philippines national and wounding four others, police said.

Also gunmen on a motorcycle shot dead an Afghan working for a local nongovernmental organisation and his driver were gunned down today morning in the southeastern province of Logar, officials said.

In a separate incident four militants were killed, several wounded and two captured following a gun-battle in the southern province of Kandahar, police said.

Taliban militants fighting national, NATO and US led foreign troops also frequently attack construction crews, aid agencies, United Nations officials and Afghan government employees.

The NATO-led International Security Assistance Force has about 37,000 troops from 37 nations in Afghanistan, while the separate US-led coalition is about 14,000-strong.

But British Defence Secretary Des Browne today backed a parliamentary committee report which said a far larger force and increased development aid was needed to stabilise the troubled country.

"I agree with the report's recommendation that NATO countries need to do more," Mr Browne told the BBC.

The committee said ISAF was two battalions short of the requirement set by NATO commanders while some countries continued to impose restrictions on their troops' operations.

NATO's civilian spokesman in Afghanistan, Nicholas Lunt, said the focus should be on strengthening Afghanistan's nascent security forces.

"If part of the solution to the problems that Afghanistan is facing is about the additional troops, then we believe the long-term solution is going to be coming from more and better Afghan troops and more and better Afghan police," he said.



Skeptic - I found this article today.  Is a common islamic attack. many of the "terrorist" attacks in eurpope like this ??
This really says it all, some people like to blow other people up entirely.
How did you know about the irish bombing london if we never heard about it ?

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Re: EU Terrorism Situation & Trend Report
Reply #39 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 11:21am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2007 at 11:14am:
Skeptic - I found this article today.  Is a common islamic attack. many of the "terrorist" attacks in eurpope like this ??
This really says it all, some people like to blow other people up entirely.
How did you know about the irish bombing london if we never heard about it ?



sprintcyclist, the point i was making was that in Europe during 2006 the number of non-muslim terrorist attacks were far greater than muslim terrorist attacks.

so for people to say that all terrorists are muslim is clearly false.
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Reply #40 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:37pm
 
I'ld like to see a breakdown of the figures .
Guessing most are from criminals, some from nutters.

How many are from a prolonged sustained single source that are a threat to freedom ?
How many openly celelbrate their actions and receive support from clerics worldwide ?
How many cause death ?
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Re: EU Terrorism Situation & Trend Report
Reply #41 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:40pm
 
How many are from a prolonged sustained single source that are a threat to freedom ?

Obviously all forms of terrorism are a threat to freedom. The separatist attacks are also from a prolonged issue, though I'm not sure what you mean by a single source. Most of the others are also from long term issues.

How many openly celelbrate their actions and receive support from clerics worldwide ?

Assuming you mean muslims when you say clerics, it would be one at most.
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Reply #42 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:41pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:37pm:
I'ld like to see a breakdown of the figures .
Guessing most are from criminals, some from nutters.

How many are from a prolonged sustained single source that are a threat to freedom ?
How many openly celelbrate their actions and receive support from clerics worldwide ?
How many cause death ?


read the report in the link i provided and find out.
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Re: EU Terrorism Situation & Trend Report
Reply #43 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:48pm
 
Some quotes from the report



"Altogether 498 attacks were carried out in the EU in 2006.
The vast majority of them resulted in limited material damage and were not intended to kill. However, the failed attack in Germany and the foiled London plot demonstrate that Islamist terrorists also aim at mass casualties.
A total of 706 individuals suspected of terrorism offences were arrested in 15 Member States in
2006. Investigations into Islamist terrorism are clearly a priority for Member States’ law enforcement
as demonstrated by the number of arrested suspects reported by Member States.

Half of all the terrorism arrests were related to Islamist terrorism. France, Spain, Italy and the
Netherlands had the highest number of arrests of Islamist terrorist suspects. The majority of the
arrested suspects were born in Algeria,Morocco and Tunisia and had loose affiliations to North
African terrorist groups, such as the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group and the Salafist Group
for Preaching and Combat. However, the suspects involved in the


Islamist terrorism is motivated either in whole or in part by an extreme interpretation of Islam
and the use of violence is regarded by its practitioners as a divine duty or sacramental duty."


Member State Islamist Separatist Left-Wing Right-Wing Total
Austria 0 1 0 0 1
Belgium 1 0 1 12 14
Denmark 9 0 0 0 6
France 139 188 15 0 342
Germany 11 4 5 0 20
Ireland 0 4 0 0 4
Italy 34 0 25 0 59
Luxembourg 0 1 0 0 1
The Netherlands 6 0 0 0 6
Poland 0 0 0 3 3
Slovakia 3 0 0 0 3
Spain 51 28 6 0 85
Sweden 3 0 0 0 3
UK _ _ _ _ 156
Total 257 226 52 15 706



Other details show most nonlethal non islam attacks are seperatist ones in France, where islam has a hold.
I assume if the muslims were not thee, nor would be the other attacks.

Look inot thge figures please. Interperet them yourslef using your own intelligence.


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Reply #44 - Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:53pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19th, 2007 at 1:48pm:
Other details show most nonlethal non islam attacks are seperatist ones in France, where islam has a hold.
I assume if the muslims were not thee, nor would be the other attacks.


sprintcyclist, look at the facts and don't make assumptions.

the report clearly states that the attacks in France were done by separtist terrorists, not Islamic ones.
there is no evidence to suggest that the separtist terrorists are muslims or that they are motivated by religion, so u can't reasonably make that assumption that less attacks would occur if France had less muslims.  
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