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Reply #90 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 11:20am

Revenant wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 10:16am:

I'm still waiting to hear about the evidence that supports the claim that God exists. Either present the evidence or admit that there isn't any.

There is no conclusive evidence that supports the claim that God exists as there is no conclusive evidence that supports the claim that God does not exists. This is like two opposite sides of the same coin.
But what is the real value of such coin, what can you buy for it? TITQ

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Revenant Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #91 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 11:34am If there's no evidence to prove the existence of God and therefore no evidence to prove what "its" will for you is, then how is it relevant?
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Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist
Reply #92 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 11:52am

Revenant wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 11:34am:

If there's no evidence to prove the existence of God and therefore no evidence to prove what "its" will for you is, then how is it relevant?

It's not the evidence of existence that "will" something for you but the belief. On another hand the evidence of non existence aren't any better then other side of coin but what is practical use of disbelief?

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Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist
Reply #93 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 12:14pm

tallowood wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 11:52am:

Revenant wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 11:34am:

If there's no evidence to prove the existence of God and therefore no evidence to prove what "its" will for you is, then how is it relevant?

It's not the evidence of existence that "will" something for you but the belief. On another hand the evidence of non existence aren't any better then other side of coin but what is practical use of disbelief?

I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say, Tallowood.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48839 At my desk.	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #94 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 3:02pm I did respond to you revenant.
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Revenant Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #95 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 5:01pm What? That line about David Lynch being evidence of God's existence?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48839 At my desk.	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #96 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 6:13pm Yes. And the bit about trying to analyse one paradigm with the constructs of another.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #97 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 8:23pm I just got the Dawkins book, but I might wait for the audio book to come through - 'cause I'm lazy
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #98 - Oct 19^th, 2008 at 2:07am Nevermind
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Revenant Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #99 - Oct 19^th, 2008 at 11:41am freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 6:13pm: Yes. And the bit about trying to analyse one paradigm with the constructs of another. So what constructs do you analyse the God paradigm with?
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Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist
Reply #100 - Oct 19^th, 2008 at 1:05pm

Revenant wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 10:16am:

I'm still waiting to hear about the evidence that supports the claim that God exists. Either present the evidence or admit that there isn't any.

The plain and empirical evidence of god's existence is the existence and vitality of the jews in the face of deep hatred from all quarters and from the start.

Christians may doubt the existence of Christ or they may think of him as symbol of Man who has now disappered from the world but they cannot doubt the existence of the jews. Their existence is surety, in a way and to some extent, for the truth of Christianity

When Frederick the Great of Prussia asked his pastor for proof of god's existence and the truth of Christianity, the pastor argued conclusively when he answered: "Your majesty, the Jews!"

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Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist
Reply #101 - Oct 19^th, 2008 at 1:14pm

Revenant wrote on Oct 19^th, 2008 at 11:41am:

freediver wrote on Oct 18^th, 2008 at 6:13pm:

Yes. And the bit about trying to analyse one paradigm with the constructs of another.

So what constructs do you analyse the God paradigm with?

You don't 'analyse' a paradigm. You try it out and see how it works. Even in science that's what happens. There is no objective measure of the value of competing paradigms, except for the number of people who prefer it.

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Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist
Reply #102 - Oct 19^th, 2008 at 1:57pm

It beats me why militant Atheists keep asking this inane question in Internet forums. "Show me proof that God exists?"

OK First define God.

Now would that be the God of the Jews, Muslims, Lutherans, Synod Lutherans....Tannaists ?

Or will any God do....?

OK I choose the God of the Tannaists. I can probably prove that he exists. I have actually shaken his hand when I was younger.

WRONG QUESTION.

An Atheist "doesn't believe in gods". ie gods have no relevance for his or her life. A person who doesn't believe that God exists is a subset of Atheist, but does not account for all atheists.

Now I have absolutely positive proof that God exists - and I don't believe in him. OK - get over it.

Let the flock peacefully graze. There is further nothing of interest in this topic.

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Revenant Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #103 - Oct 19^th, 2008 at 3:55pm Okay FD. So you believe in God because.......
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48839 At my desk.	Re: Dawkins' "proof" that God doesn't exist Reply #104 - Oct 19^th, 2008 at 3:58pm Revenant wrote on Oct 19^th, 2008 at 3:55pm: Okay FD. So you believe in God because....... You left off the end of your sentence. Did you fall asleep at the keyboard?
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