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Re: The Trojan Horse that was
Reply #15 - Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:54pm

deepthought wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:09pm:

Probaby Hawke.....with a tad of Whitlam attached........because of China........[oh, yeah.....he did win the America's Cup.....personally, with his bare hands!!!. Yeah, he did, I heard it on the radio, so it must be true.]

There's no doubt he screwed the workers and made a lot of rich people wealthy beyond imagining (who can forget Bond, Skase, Packer et al) but I don't agree that screwing ordinary Australians is all that noble.

Hawke did very little for Australia and its people in general. Many traditional Lieborites detested his policies too.

What......no mention of China???

The singular, most important thaing that exists for us, and probably the rest of the planet for the next 40 years or so. Hawke took us there, fact.

Having a buggerer PM who speaks the lingo can't hurt too much, methinks.

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Reply #16 - Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 10:19pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:54pm:

deepthought wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:09pm:

Probaby Hawke.....with a tad of Whitlam attached........because of China........[oh, yeah.....he did win the America's Cup.....personally, with his bare hands!!!. Yeah, he did, I heard it on the radio, so it must be true.]

There's no doubt he screwed the workers and made a lot of rich people wealthy beyond imagining (who can forget Bond, Skase, Packer et al) but I don't agree that screwing ordinary Australians is all that noble.

Hawke did very little for Australia and its people in general. Many traditional Lieborites detested his policies too.

What......no mention of China???

The singular, most important thaing that exists for us, and probably the rest of the planet for the next 40 years or so. Hawke took us there, fact.

Having a buggerer PM who speaks the lingo can't hurt too much, methinks.

Hawke wasn't particularly special with regards to China. Before him Fraser had already visited China twice and China established its consulate in Sydney in 1979 - during the Fraser years.

John Howard visited China more often than Hawke.

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Re: The Trojan Horse that was
Reply #17 - Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:05pm

deepthought wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 10:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:54pm:

deepthought wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:09pm:

Probaby Hawke.....with a tad of Whitlam attached........because of China........[oh, yeah.....he did win the America's Cup.....personally, with his bare hands!!!. Yeah, he did, I heard it on the radio, so it must be true.]

There's no doubt he screwed the workers and made a lot of rich people wealthy beyond imagining (who can forget Bond, Skase, Packer et al) but I don't agree that screwing ordinary Australians is all that noble.

Hawke did very little for Australia and its people in general. Many traditional Lieborites detested his policies too.

What......no mention of China???

The singular, most important thaing that exists for us, and probably the rest of the planet for the next 40 years or so. Hawke took us there, fact.

Having a buggerer PM who speaks the lingo can't hurt too much, methinks.

Hawke wasn't particularly special with regards to China. Before him Fraser had already visited China twice and China established its consulate in Sydney in 1979 - during the Fraser years.

John Howard visited China more often than Hawke.

You really are a low life. bugger, I hope you get through Law and that some of my mates come up against you.....or better still, and more probable, in front of you, on the Bench.

Who was the first person to officially visit China as the current PM of Australia?

That'd be Whitlam.

Hawke built upon it.

hayseed and Fraser might just as well stayed at home.

Was it Hawke who first hosted the Chinese big cahuna in Australia?

Dunno.

.....but, at least Hawke had a tear to shed.

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Re: The Trojan Horse that was
Reply #18 - Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:13pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:05pm:

deepthought wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 10:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:54pm:

deepthought wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:27pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2008 at 9:09pm:

Probaby Hawke.....with a tad of Whitlam attached........because of China........[oh, yeah.....he did win the America's Cup.....personally, with his bare hands!!!. Yeah, he did, I heard it on the radio, so it must be true.]

There's no doubt he screwed the workers and made a lot of rich people wealthy beyond imagining (who can forget Bond, Skase, Packer et al) but I don't agree that screwing ordinary Australians is all that noble.

Hawke did very little for Australia and its people in general. Many traditional Lieborites detested his policies too.

What......no mention of China???

The singular, most important thaing that exists for us, and probably the rest of the planet for the next 40 years or so. Hawke took us there, fact.

Having a buggerer PM who speaks the lingo can't hurt too much, methinks.

Hawke wasn't particularly special with regards to China. Before him Fraser had already visited China twice and China established its consulate in Sydney in 1979 - during the Fraser years.

John Howard visited China more often than Hawke.

You really are a low life. bugger, I hope you get through Law and that some of my mates come up against you.....or better still, and more probable, in front of you, on the Bench.

Who was the first person to officially visit China as the current PM of Australia?

That'd be Whitlam.

Hawke built upon it.

hayseed and Fraser might just as well stayed at home.

Was it Hawke who first hosted the Chinese big cahuna in Australia?

Dunno.

.....but, at least Hawke had a tear to shed.

Hawke certainly did pave the way for banning ministerial contact with China. I don't believe Fraser or Johnny did that dude. Yep, you can thank Hawke for that as he blubbered crocodile tears. But he was the Kleenex Kid, he was always sobbing about something or other.

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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: The Trojan Horse that was Reply #19 - Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:18pm Oh, and it was Johnny who hosted the first Chinese Head Of State. Relations with China were distinctly frosty after Hawke told his ministers they couldn't think for themselves and made China stand in the corner until it could behave. Johnny normalised things. When it comes to amazing PMs Johnny was the man.
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Reply #20 - Jan 4^th, 2008 at 3:47am

deepthought wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:18pm:

Oh, and it was Johnny who hosted the first Chinese Head Of State. Relations with China were distinctly frosty after Hawke told his ministers they couldn't think for themselves and made China stand in the corner until it could behave.

Johnny normalised things.

When it comes to amazing PMs Johnny was the man.

I'm sure that's how they will talk about the man who rammed serfchoices thru the first opportunity he got.

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Re: The Trojan Horse that was
Reply #21 - Jan 4^th, 2008 at 5:34pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 3:47am:

deepthought wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:18pm:

Oh, and it was Johnny who hosted the first Chinese Head Of State. Relations with China were distinctly frosty after Hawke told his ministers they couldn't think for themselves and made China stand in the corner until it could behave.

Johnny normalised things.

When it comes to amazing PMs Johnny was the man.

I'm sure that's how they will talk about the man who rammed serfchoices thru the first opportunity he got.

I'm sure they (and you) will.

History will judge Johnny as the greatest modern PM when the economy has crashed, unemployment has risen (it already is higher than the start of last year), interest rates continue to rise (today some banks announced a rise without any action from the central bank - the first time for over a decade), availability of full time jobs drop below part time ones (this already happened - it coincided with the election of a Liebor government) and so on and so forth.

With Johnny thrown away by the electorate the rot soon sets in and all Australians pay the penalty because some chose a Liebor Government over sensibility.

The wise ones knew interest rates rise under Liebor - today the reality struck home to the delusional ones who did not know what truth is.

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Re: The Trojan Horse that was
Reply #22 - Jan 4^th, 2008 at 5:42pm

deepthought wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 5:34pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 3:47am:

deepthought wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:18pm:

Oh, and it was Johnny who hosted the first Chinese Head Of State. Relations with China were distinctly frosty after Hawke told his ministers they couldn't think for themselves and made China stand in the corner until it could behave.

Johnny normalised things.

When it comes to amazing PMs Johnny was the man.

I'm sure that's how they will talk about the man who rammed serfchoices thru the first opportunity he got.

I'm sure they (and you) will.

History will judge Johnny as the greatest modern PM when the economy has crashed, unemployment has risen (it already is higher than the start of last year), interest rates continue to rise (today some banks announced a rise without any action from the central bank - the first time for over a decade), availability of full time jobs drop below part time ones (this already happened - it coincided with the election of a Liebor government) and so on and so forth.

With Johnny thrown away by the electorate the rot soon sets in and all Australians pay the penalty because some chose a Liebor Government over sensibility.

The wise ones knew interest rates rise under Liebor - today the reality struck home to the delusional ones who did not know what truth is.

Let me get this straight: Are you seriously blaming Labor for unemployment figures already because they happen to be negative?

Same with Interest Rates?

Same with Full-time/Part-time jobs?

Huh

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Re: The Trojan Horse that was
Reply #23 - Jan 4^th, 2008 at 6:10pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 5:42pm:

deepthought wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 5:34pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 3:47am:

deepthought wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:18pm:

Oh, and it was Johnny who hosted the first Chinese Head Of State. Relations with China were distinctly frosty after Hawke told his ministers they couldn't think for themselves and made China stand in the corner until it could behave.

Johnny normalised things.

When it comes to amazing PMs Johnny was the man.

I'm sure that's how they will talk about the man who rammed serfchoices thru the first opportunity he got.

I'm sure they (and you) will.

History will judge Johnny as the greatest modern PM when the economy has crashed, unemployment has risen (it already is higher than the start of last year), interest rates continue to rise (today some banks announced a rise without any action from the central bank - the first time for over a decade), availability of full time jobs drop below part time ones (this already happened - it coincided with the election of a Liebor government) and so on and so forth.

With Johnny thrown away by the electorate the rot soon sets in and all Australians pay the penalty because some chose a Liebor Government over sensibility.

The wise ones knew interest rates rise under Liebor - today the reality struck home to the delusional ones who did not know what truth is.

Let me get this straight: Are you seriously blaming Labor for unemployment figures already because they happen to be negative?

Same with Interest Rates?

Same with Full-time/Part-time jobs?

Huh

Who is responsible if not the current government? Unemployment hit extraordinary highs under the last Liebor government but the coalition righted the wrongs. Now Liebor is back expect the same conditions as we suffered before under Liebor.

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Re: The Trojan Horse that was
Reply #24 - Jan 5^th, 2008 at 1:05am

deepthought wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 6:10pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 5:42pm:

deepthought wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 5:34pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 4^th, 2008 at 3:47am:

deepthought wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2008 at 9:18pm:

Oh, and it was Johnny who hosted the first Chinese Head Of State. Relations with China were distinctly frosty after Hawke told his ministers they couldn't think for themselves and made China stand in the corner until it could behave.

Johnny normalised things.

When it comes to amazing PMs Johnny was the man.

I'm sure that's how they will talk about the man who rammed serfchoices thru the first opportunity he got.

I'm sure they (and you) will.

History will judge Johnny as the greatest modern PM when the economy has crashed, unemployment has risen (it already is higher than the start of last year), interest rates continue to rise (today some banks announced a rise without any action from the central bank - the first time for over a decade), availability of full time jobs drop below part time ones (this already happened - it coincided with the election of a Liebor government) and so on and so forth.

With Johnny thrown away by the electorate the rot soon sets in and all Australians pay the penalty because some chose a Liebor Government over sensibility.

The wise ones knew interest rates rise under Liebor - today the reality struck home to the delusional ones who did not know what truth is.

Let me get this straight: Are you seriously blaming Labor for unemployment figures already because they happen to be negative?

Same with Interest Rates?

Same with Full-time/Part-time jobs?

Huh

Who is responsible if not the current government? Unemployment hit extraordinary highs under the last Liebor government but the coalition righted the wrongs. Now Liebor is back expect the same conditions as we suffered before under Liebor.

You're a freak, mate!

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Reply #25 - Jan 5^th, 2008 at 2:03am

You're a freak, mate

No, freaks are the ones that want to ban fossil fuels because they have no understanding on how the world actually works...that would be you. DT is actually a realist. You would do good to pay heed to what he says instead of the blind rhetorical idiocy that you are so fond of spewing forth without a second thought

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Reply #26 - Jan 5^th, 2008 at 2:46am

IQSRLOW wrote on Jan 5^th, 2008 at 2:03am:

You're a freak, mate

No, freaks are the ones that want to ban fossil fuels because they have no understanding on how the world actually works...that would be you. DT is actually a realist. You would do good to pay heed to what he says instead of the blind rhetorical idiocy that you are so fond of spewing forth without a second thought

Well, they should be.

Give them a grace period and ban them from most applications where replacements can be reasonably made.

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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: The Trojan Horse that was Reply #27 - Jan 5^th, 2008 at 7:24am BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 5^th, 2008 at 1:05am: You're a freak, mate! Am I a freak because I care about my fellow Australians welfare? Because I tried to stop some misguided souls falling for Little Kevvy's rambling lies? Alright then, I am one. I voted Liberal.
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oceanz Gold Member Offline Auzgurl.. Posts: 3531 Gender:	Re: The Trojan Horse that was Reply #28 - Jan 5^th, 2008 at 8:25am deepthought wrote on Jan 5^th, 2008 at 7:24am: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 5^th, 2008 at 1:05am: You're a freak, mate! Alright then, I am one. I voted Liberal. Yes you did and YOU lost. lol
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Reply #29 - Jan 5^th, 2008 at 10:24am

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BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 5^th, 2008 at 1:05am:

You're a freak, mate!

Alright then, I am one.

I voted Liberal.

Yes you did and YOU lost. lol

Lost the battle perhaps but I was always right to fight it.

I was right about rising prices and interest rates, rising unemployment, rising industrial action and falling confidence. And while there is little consolation in being right in a world of pain I at least prepared for it by minimising debt, investing heavily and whacking away reserves. I suspect many are on the brink and will soon go under.

I can survive in a well stocked fortress until the battle is to be fought and won. And I can chuckle, as people like you oceans see that I was right.

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