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Reply #15 - May 22nd, 2008 at 5:47pm
 
deepthought wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 2:26pm:
Once the poor and desperate start killing themselves off like the last time the Liebor Party were in I reckon the tide will turn pretty quickly.

One term max, they may even get evicted for not paying the rent on Parliament House during all their cut backs on public spending.


For your sake, I trust your predictions on politics are better based than your predictions on State of Origin!

Labour, just like the erstwhile Liebs, will go at least 10 years, and lose.
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Reply #16 - May 22nd, 2008 at 5:54pm
 
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I meant to add that the last one term government in Australia was back in 1939? I think.


Nope, in more modern times, that would be Whitlam (2 years 7 months) and then Keating (4 years 2 months).  Grin
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Reply #17 - May 22nd, 2008 at 6:00pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 5:47pm:
deepthought wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 2:26pm:
Once the poor and desperate start killing themselves off like the last time the Liebor Party were in I reckon the tide will turn pretty quickly.

One term max, they may even get evicted for not paying the rent on Parliament House during all their cut backs on public spending.


For your sake, I trust your predictions on politics are better based than your predictions on State of Origin!

Labour, just like the erstwhile Liebs, will go at least 10 years, and lose.


Grin  Picking who will win the State of Origin footy match is just Queenslanders -v- New South Welshmen and a GAME.

I reckon that Rudd will get his marching orders in 2010, if not beforehand.  Cheesy
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Reply #18 - May 22nd, 2008 at 6:36pm
 
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deepthought wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 2:26pm:
Once the poor and desperate start killing themselves off like the last time the Liebor Party were in I reckon the tide will turn pretty quickly.

One term max, they may even get evicted for not paying the rent on Parliament House during all their cut backs on public spending.


Unlike the last government Rudd is trying to reduce the death rate of Australians, Labor will be removing our troops involved in the ilegal invasion of Iraq, so as mothers and fathers of soldiers need not worry about their kids being killed as invading forces.



Will they be removing the troops from Iraq?  Could you post the link to that policy please.
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Reply #19 - May 22nd, 2008 at 6:36pm
 
Neferti wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 6:00pm:
Aussie wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 5:47pm:
deepthought wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 2:26pm:
Once the poor and desperate start killing themselves off like the last time the Liebor Party were in I reckon the tide will turn pretty quickly.

One term max, they may even get evicted for not paying the rent on Parliament House during all their cut backs on public spending.


For your sake, I trust your predictions on politics are better based than your predictions on State of Origin!

Labour, just like the erstwhile Liebs, will go at least 10 years, and lose.


Grin  Picking who will win the State of Origin footy match is just Queenslanders -v- New South Welshmen and a GAME.

I reckon that Rudd will get his marching orders in 2010, if not beforehand.  Cheesy


Quite right, though I am depressed that we lost.   Cry
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Reply #20 - May 22nd, 2008 at 6:40pm
 
deepthought wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 6:36pm:
Quite right, though I am depressed that we lost.   Cry


What did they lose by? Lots or just a few points/goals?  I know nothing about football (typical female) but it IS just a game.  Wink  Cheer up.  Grin
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Reply #21 - May 22nd, 2008 at 7:02pm
 
Neferti wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 6:40pm:
deepthought wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 6:36pm:
Quite right, though I am depressed that we lost.   Cry


What did they lose by? Lots or just a few points/goals?  I know nothing about football (typical female) but it IS just a game.  Wink  Cheer up.  Grin



I'm cool, it's the first in a series of three.  The series can be won.  Smiley
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Reply #22 - May 23rd, 2008 at 9:53am
 
Neferti wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 5:54pm:
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I meant to add that the last one term government in Australia was back in 1939? I think.


Nope, in more modern times, that would be Whitlam (2 years 7 months) and then Keating (4 years 2 months).  Grin


Are you on drugs nef? One term gov means one term ,Whitlam was elected in 72 and wait for it again in 74 thats two terms . Keating took over from Hawke governed for 18 months and then won another election against Hewson. Look ive told you before nef if you dont know what your talking about its best you shut up. I stand by what I said the last one term gov in oz was in either 1929 or 39 , I'll check and get back you, but you must promise to at least try and comprehend becouse I'm starting to get sick of wasting my time on you.
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Reply #23 - May 23rd, 2008 at 12:05pm
 
I said "out for the count!"

Who is going to sell Nuclear Power to the Australia People?

It won't be Peter Costello: he knows better!

It may be Malcolm Turnbull: but, he is pinned with sharing the lie with John *that little Poison Gnome* Howard that solar cannot provide baseload electricity!

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If the hard Libs don't see sense in it anymore then why bother?

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Reply #24 - May 23rd, 2008 at 12:10pm
 
Death, the Liberal party is talking up solar and promising to spend more on it than labor. They are regularly criticising labor for not spending enough. Subsidising solar power is an even worse idea than MRETs, but the punters like it because it feels like another handout, which is what the Liberals are into at the moment.
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Reply #25 - May 23rd, 2008 at 1:07pm
 
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2008 at 12:10pm:
Death, the Liberal party is talking up solar and promising to spend more on it than labor. They are regularly criticising labor for not spending enough. Subsidising solar power is an even worse idea than MRETs, but the punters like it because it feels like another handout, which is what the Liberals are into at the moment.

Didn't Peter Costello basically say that doubling the rebate for solar panels was an innefficient use of resources?!?

Obviously I am buggered why they still did it...
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Reply #26 - May 23rd, 2008 at 1:08pm
 
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2008 at 12:10pm:
Death, the Liberal party is talking up solar and promising to spend more on it than labor. They are regularly criticising labor for not spending enough. Subsidising solar power is an even worse idea than MRETs, but the punters like it because it feels like another handout, which is what the Liberals are into at the moment.


And, where do you get this information that they are planning to spend more on it than Labor?

Are you also referring to calls for a 'solar continent'?
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Reply #27 - May 23rd, 2008 at 1:54pm
 
Neferti wrote on May 22nd, 2008 at 5:54pm:
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I meant to add that the last one term government in Australia was back in 1939? I think.


Nope, in more modern times, that would be Whitlam (2 years 7 months) and then Keating (4 years 2 months).  Grin


Just for nef- (with the exception of Whitlam's 2 terms) Australian post-1941 governments have lasted between 3 terms (Curtin-Chifley, Fraser) and 8 (Menzies to MacMahon), so one would expect Rudd's careful government to last at least 9-10 years, but more likely longer.  But by then, the current Liberal Front-benchers - all from the Baby Boomer generation - will be "last century's men".



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Reply #28 - May 23rd, 2008 at 1:58pm
 
Death, there's been a few comments on the front page of the Australian. I googled this:

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2007/s2248087.htm

BRENDAN NELSON: Well, this is economic and environmental madness, Barrie. Firstly, by the way, we, generally speaking as Liberals, we get a bit concerned about means tests in a number of areas. The second thing is that, how do you means test an environmental footprint? People on higher incomes generally have a larger carbon footprint than those who don't. The idea that if you're a policeman and your wife's a teacher and you're ineligible for an $8,000 rebate to put solar panels on your house, which are still going to cost you another $8,000 to $10,000 out of pocket, is in my view absolute madness. It's also destructive of small business. This is a growing, an emerging industry in Australia that needs more investment in research and development, and it's generally been higher income people and when I say higher income, I mean $100,000 to $250,000 a year, the people that are actually putting these things on. So this is something that I really urge Mr Rudd to have a look at. I know Peter Garrett doesn't really know what he's doing when it comes to economics, but I think Mr Rudd seriously needs to re-examine this measure. It is contrary to all of the rhetoric and hot air we've had from him on the environment.
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Reply #29 - May 23rd, 2008 at 4:13pm
 
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2008 at 1:58pm:
Death, there's been a few comments on the front page of the Australian. I googled this:

http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2007/s2248087.htm

BRENDAN NELSON: Well, this is economic and environmental madness, Barrie. Firstly, by the way, we, generally speaking as Liberals, we get a bit concerned about means tests in a number of areas. The second thing is that, how do you means test an environmental footprint? People on higher incomes generally have a larger carbon footprint than those who don't. The idea that if you're a policeman and your wife's a teacher and you're ineligible for an $8,000 rebate to put solar panels on your house, which are still going to cost you another $8,000 to $10,000 out of pocket, is in my view absolute madness. It's also destructive of small business. This is a growing, an emerging industry in Australia that needs more investment in research and development, and it's generally been higher income people and when I say higher income, I mean $100,000 to $250,000 a year, the people that are actually putting these things on. So this is something that I really urge Mr Rudd to have a look at. I know Peter Garrett doesn't really know what he's doing when it comes to economics, but I think Mr Rudd seriously needs to re-examine this measure. It is contrary to all of the rhetoric and hot air we've had from him on the environment.


To me it would make sense that PV is not worth it, at the moment, for the taxpayer to support it!

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