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Reply #30 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 6:04pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14^th, 2008 at 5:53pm:

The Australian extradition proceedings seek to send an American citizen, lawfully living in the freedom loving USA to face allegations in a foreign jurisdiction the populace of which have been told over and over that he is 'Dr Death, and that he is a 'murderer.' I confidently expect the USA will protect it's citizens against such barbarity, to which you DT, have contributed.

Me barbarous? How dare you. I have never cut anyone's hair in my life.

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Reply #31 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 6:06pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14^th, 2008 at 5:53pm:

The Australian extradition proceedings seek to send an American citizen, lawfully living in the freedom loving USA to face allegations in a foreign jurisdiction the populace of which have been told over and over that he is 'Dr Death, and that he is a 'murderer.' I confidently expect the USA will protect it's citizens against such barbarity, to which you DT, have contributed.

Actually I'm pretty impressed that you have started pleading his case already. Is he paying you?

Unfortunately no one will believe you as we live in Australia, the country you say is barbarous.

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Reply #32 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 9:19pm

deepthought wrote on Mar 14^th, 2008 at 6:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14^th, 2008 at 5:53pm:

The Australian extradition proceedings seek to send an American citizen, lawfully living in the freedom loving USA to face allegations in a foreign jurisdiction the populace of which have been told over and over that he is 'Dr Death, and that he is a 'murderer.' I confidently expect the USA will protect it's citizens against such barbarity, to which you DT, have contributed.

Actually I'm pretty impressed that you have started pleading his case already. Is he paying you?

Unfortunately no one will believe you as we live in Australia, the country you say is barbarous.

(Why is this Forum so slow ATM?)

No, no-one is paying me. Should they?

It matters jack pooey that we live in Australia. The extradition decision will be made in the USA, and that USA Court will be told about how 'Dr. Death' has NIL chance of a fair trial in Bundaberg, or anywhere in Queensland where there is access to the Media.

Any suggestions, DT?

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Reply #33 - Mar 14^th, 2008 at 10:13pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 14^th, 2008 at 9:19pm:

deepthought wrote on Mar 14^th, 2008 at 6:06pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 14^th, 2008 at 5:53pm:

The Australian extradition proceedings seek to send an American citizen, lawfully living in the freedom loving USA to face allegations in a foreign jurisdiction the populace of which have been told over and over that he is 'Dr Death, and that he is a 'murderer.' I confidently expect the USA will protect it's citizens against such barbarity, to which you DT, have contributed.

Actually I'm pretty impressed that you have started pleading his case already. Is he paying you?

Unfortunately no one will believe you as we live in Australia, the country you say is barbarous.

(Why is this Forum so slow ATM?)

No, no-one is paying me. Should they?

It matters jack pooey that we live in Australia. The extradition decision will be made in the USA, and that USA Court will be told about how 'Dr. Death' has NIL chance of a fair trial in Bundaberg, or anywhere in Queensland where there is access to the Media.

Any suggestions, DT?

Yes. I don't believe the USA will think it needs to "protect it's citizens against such barbarity" when the extradition request is from Australia.

While you may think Australia to be barbaric most people realise that in Australia we have the right to a fair trial, we have the right to full legal representation and we have courts which are impartial as far as it is possible to be.

Many cases are tried where there is a lot of negative publicity. Unless you suggest none of them are held in Australia why are you singling one case out for particular attention.

And besides which, I don't think of the USA as a refuge for fugitives. If they harbour Patel on the basis he may not get a fair trial in barbaric Australia then everyone will head for the USA to escape justice.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49133 At my desk.	Re: Jayant Patel behind bars Reply #34 - Mar 15^th, 2008 at 8:10pm The USA is a haven for people escaping the barbaric justice system of their 'home' country. We take a few refugees too.
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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: Jayant Patel behind bars Reply #35 - Mar 15^th, 2008 at 8:13pm freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2008 at 8:10pm: The USA is a haven for people escaping the barbaric justice system of their 'home' country. We take a few refugees too. Do you think Patel is a refugee? He's a citizen of the USA according to Aussie.
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Tony Mokbel
Reply #36 - Mar 19^th, 2008 at 3:48pm

Aussie do you think Tony Mokbel will get a fair trial?

Five Mokbel charges to be dropped

http://news.smh.com.au/five-mokbel-charges-to-be-dropped/20080319-20b7.html

Victoria Police will be forced to drop five charges against convicted drugs baron Tony Mokbel, including four of drug trafficking, following a Greek court's order that he be returned to Australia.

Mokbel, 43, appeared overnight in Greece's Supreme Court in Athens and was ordered to be returned to Australia to face 15 charges, including two of murder.

But five other charges - one of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice and four related to drug trafficking - cannot go ahead because the offences are not recognised in Greece.

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Re: Jayant Patel behind bars
Reply #37 - Mar 29^th, 2008 at 8:21pm

It seems the newspapers disagree with Aussie that there may be doubt about Patel getting a fair trial. It seems that it is not even mentioned - the main issue seems to be Dr Death's attempt to get the US taxpayers to fund his fight against the extradition.

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Patel ordered to pay for own legal case

Former Queensland doctor Jayant Patel will be forced to pay for his own legal and extradition costs, following his failing in a bid to have US taxpayers foot the bill.

Jayant Patel was officially arrested and charged for the manslaughter of three people, and is likely to be extradited to face the charges in Australia.

Patel had asked the court to allow for state assistance in his legal case, however a court ruled that the former surgeon had significant wealth of his own.

The court is also yet to rule on a bail application by Patel, which would see the former Doctor released while awaiting his extradition hearing.

Justice awaits you Dr Death

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38791 Gender:	Re: Jayant Patel behind bars Reply #38 - Mar 30^th, 2008 at 9:19pm DT: Quote: It seems the newspapers disagree with Aussie that there may be doubt about Patel getting a fair trial. .....and there ^^^^ you lie equating his request for publicly funded defence (which was denied) with getting a fair trial. Ho hum.
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Reply #39 - Mar 30^th, 2008 at 9:22pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 30^th, 2008 at 9:19pm:

DT:

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It seems the newspapers disagree with Aussie that there may be doubt about Patel getting a fair trial.

.....and there ^^^^ you lie equating his request for publicly funded defence (which was denied) with getting a fair trial.

Ho hum.

Not at all. Once you read my post for the first time you will see the paper had predicted Dr Death "is likely to be extradited to face the charges in Australia".

They didn't mention any likelihood of the extradition not being granted on the basis that he may not receive a fair trial.

Have a read. It's all there.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38791 Gender:	Re: Jayant Patel behind bars Reply #40 - Mar 30^th, 2008 at 9:28pm You did.......... Quote: It seems the newspapers disagree with Aussie that there may be doubt about Patel getting a fair trial.
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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: Jayant Patel behind bars Reply #41 - Mar 30^th, 2008 at 9:33pm Aussie wrote on Mar 30^th, 2008 at 9:28pm: You did.......... Quote: It seems the newspapers disagree with Aussie that there may be doubt about Patel getting a fair trial. Thanks
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Reply #42 - Apr 2^nd, 2008 at 4:18pm

from crikey:

Rod Raymont writes: Has sub-judice and the presumption of innocence become almost meaningless to the media? Last week we had newspaper reports that, according to classmates, the Sydney boy accused of stabbing his father to death and seriously injuring his mother had compiled "death lists" of people at school who bullied him. Not prejudicial? Now we have on the front page of yesterday's Telegraph a headline asserting that swimmer Nick D'Arcy had made a "cruel attack" on Simon Cowley and therefore should be kicked off the Olympic team. Whether he should be kicked off the team is a whole other debate but bugger me, can we wait for Police and Olympic officials to complete their inquiries or doesn't anyone care about proper legal proceedings anymore? Some former State Attorneys Generals can testify to the outrage from media companies when they dare charge them with contempt over some of these reports but it looks like it might have to happen more often.

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