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Reply #15 - Mar 18th, 2008 at 6:18pm
 
you know the old saying - you can only trust those you pay... Smiley
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Chinese firm donated to Nats, Rudd says
Reply #16 - Mar 18th, 2008 at 8:11pm
 
Wow, $100000 and they complain about Rudd accepting a bottle of wine.

http://news.smh.com.au/chinese-firm-donated-to-nats-rudd-says/20080318-206x.html

A Chinese company which paid for overseas trips for Labor MPs also donated $100,000 to the Nationals, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said on Tuesday.

Mr Rudd, Treasurer Wayne Swan, Agriculture Minister Tony Burke and Labor backbencher Bernie Ripoll all went on trips sponsored by Beijing AustChina Technology, an importer of Australian telecommunications equipment, while in opposition.

The current opposition has queried the relationship between the MPs and the company.
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Reply #17 - Mar 18th, 2008 at 8:23pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 18th, 2008 at 8:11pm:
Wow, $100000 and they complain about Rudd accepting a bottle of wine.

http://news.smh.com.au/chinese-firm-donated-to-nats-rudd-says/20080318-206x.html

A Chinese company which paid for overseas trips for Labor MPs also donated $100,000 to the Nationals, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said on Tuesday.

Mr Rudd, Treasurer Wayne Swan, Agriculture Minister Tony Burke and Labor backbencher Bernie Ripoll all went on trips sponsored by Beijing AustChina Technology, an importer of Australian telecommunications equipment, while in opposition.

The current opposition has queried the relationship between the MPs and the company.



I don't think it's the wine that's the issue.  If you comprehended all the news rather than the bits you only seem able to see you would find it is the donation to the ALP of more than double that figure, apparently for services yet to be provided . . . . . .

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Reply #18 - Mar 18th, 2008 at 10:05pm
 
i fail to see any thing other than utter rubbish from you on this point dt's
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Reply #19 - Mar 18th, 2008 at 10:12pm
 
Dooley wrote on Mar 18th, 2008 at 10:05pm:
i fail to see any thing other than utter rubbish from you on this point dt's


I can understand that Dooley. 

After all you failed to see the definition of 'utter' on the website you linked to. 

And you failed to see the truth about the UN's position on the legality or otherwise of the 'invasion' of Iraq on the website you linked to.

I'm not at all surprised to see that once again you are selectively blind.

Have you considered opening both eyes to gain a balanced perspective Dooley?
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Reply #20 - Mar 18th, 2008 at 10:23pm
 
You are a very poor loser aren't you Dooley?

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Reply #21 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 6:36am
 
Little Cardboard Kevvy Liar maintains his treatment of the mushrooms by being vewy, vewy secretive about his contra deals . . . . . .



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Rudd's Chinese 'sponsor' attracts scrutiny




PRIME Minister Kevin Rudd is facing fresh scrutiny over his links with a mysterious Chinese entrepreneur, Ian Tang, who has treated Mr Rudd and some of his ministers to thousands of dollars worth of free overseas trips.

Despite being virtually unknown here, Mr Tang's company, Beijing AustChina Technology, has emerged as Australia's fourth biggest corporate political donor, with hundreds of thousands of dollars showered on both sides of politics.

The company may also be among the most generous provider of travel junkets to senior politicians, with Mr Rudd and several of his ministers having gone overseas on Mr Tang's tab while they were in opposition.

Now The Age has learned that Mr Rudd, Treasurer Wayne Swan and other high-profile recipients of Mr Tang's hospitality have held meetings with the businessman since November, when Labor won power.

Federal Agriculture Minister Tony Burke (the most frequent of Mr Tang's flyers, with five sponsored trips while in opposition) met the businessman last month, as did Mr Swan.

And a spokesman for Mr Rudd confirmed yesterday that he met Mr Tang in November, the month he won office.

The Age has also learned that Mr Tang spent $55,000 on a gala dinner at the Nationals' conference last August, when he dined with party leaders and corporate heavyweights.

The sponsorship of the function, which featured a crooner named "Alfio", was in addition to a $99,980 donation the company made to the Nationals before the federal election.

The revelations come after Mr Rudd and Mr Burke faced questions in Parliament yesterday over their links with Mr Tang and his company.

Mr Rudd was asked to table correspondence relating to a trip in 2006, when he went to the US, Britain, Darfur, Sudan and China at the expense of Mr Tang's company. He declined to table the correspondence.


Mr Burke was questioned about five trips that he took at the company's expense, and gave Parliament details of another trip to Manila that related to his then shadow portfolio of immigration.

He said he had disclosed all of the trips in accordance with parliamentary rules. But he failed to answer a question about whether he had maintained contact with the company since becoming a cabinet minister.

Last night, Mr Burke told The Age: "Ian Tang was in Australia last month. He caught up with politicians from both sides of politics, including me."

Mr Swan took trips to Beijing and Hong Kong in 2006 and to mainland China in July 2007.

Beijing AustChina Technology has donated more than $150,000 to the NSW branch of the ALP and, according to the Australian Electoral Commission, was the fourth largest corporate political donor in 2006-07.

The company says it provides "telecommunication and information technology solutions to the Chinese market place" and [b]boasts on its website of having "
close working relationships with key decision-makers and figureheads in government agencies in
both
Australia
and China"[/b].

No wonder Kevvy doesn't want his people to get a pay rise - they already have two jobs . . . . .

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Reply #22 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 9:10am
 
deepthought wrote on Mar 18th, 2008 at 8:23pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 18th, 2008 at 8:11pm:
Wow, $100000 and they complain about Rudd accepting a bottle of wine.

http://news.smh.com.au/chinese-firm-donated-to-nats-rudd-says/20080318-206x.html

A Chinese company which paid for overseas trips for Labor MPs also donated $100,000 to the Nationals, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said on Tuesday.

Mr Rudd, Treasurer Wayne Swan, Agriculture Minister Tony Burke and Labor backbencher Bernie Ripoll all went on trips sponsored by Beijing AustChina Technology, an importer of Australian telecommunications equipment, while in opposition.

The current opposition has queried the relationship between the MPs and the company.



I don't think it's the wine that's the issue.  If you comprehended all the news rather than the bits you only seem able to see you would find it is the donation to the ALP of more than double that figure, apparently for services yet to be provided . . . . . .

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So the Coalition is upset because Labor got more money out of them? Is that why they complained so bitterly?
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Reply #23 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 10:16am
 
freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2008 at 9:10am:
So the Coalition is upset because Labor got more money out of them? Is that why they complained so bitterly?



Impressive swerving but the amount of the donation to the Nats was brought up by you and Little Kevvy.

It's the graft of paid holidays - for what?  They reckon that Liebor offers a better 'opportunity' for them.  How do they know unless the deal has already been struck . . . .
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Reply #24 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 10:54am
 
So it's the paid holidays that matter now, not the $100000 they gave to the coalition? Maybe the coalition were just upset that they didn't get a bottle of grange too.
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Reply #25 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 12:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2008 at 10:54am:
So it's the paid holidays that matter now, not the $100000 they gave to the coalition? Maybe the coalition were just upset that they didn't get a bottle of grange too.



Discussing ethicality or morality with you (and leftards generally) is similar to discussing beautiful landscapes with a blind man.  No matter how much detail you provide they will never see it.

I suppose we rightys should simply accept that leftards take bribery and corruption in their stride - it's a way of life for them.

However I will never lay down for the Liebor Party to walk on me as you seem eager to do.
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Reply #26 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 12:54pm
 
Deepthought was it unethical for the coalition to accept that $100000?
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Reply #27 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 5:06pm
 
deepthought wrote on Mar 19th, 2008 at 12:07pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2008 at 10:54am:
So it's the paid holidays that matter now, not the $100000 they gave to the coalition? Maybe the coalition were just upset that they didn't get a bottle of grange too.



Discussing ethicality or morality with you (and leftards generally) is similar to discussing beautiful landscapes with a blind man.  No matter how much detail you provide they will never see it.

I suppose we rightys should simply accept that leftards take bribery and corruption in their stride - it's a way of life for them.

However I will never lay down for the Liebor Party to walk on me as you seem eager to do.



righturds could never understand the vagaries of life outside the myopoic bubble they assume contains all their is to know as the leftys have an natural inclination to do. inclusion and social cohesion are the mainstay of the socialist life, while righturds aim to cause fraction amongst the populace to make it easier to rule....

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Reply #28 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 6:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2008 at 12:54pm:
Deepthought was it unethical for the coalition to accept that $100000?


No.
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Reply #29 - Mar 19th, 2008 at 9:14pm
 
inclusion and social cohesion are the mainstay of the socialist life

Bwahahaha- history proves you wrong in so many ways

make it easier to rule....

I am glad that you know your place Dooley and accept that Righties know best to rule which we have done since time began and society has made great leaps forward because of us despite the like of you holding mankind back.

You should be ashamed of yourself.
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