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Re: Liebor - a haven for criminals
Reply #45 - Mar 29th, 2008 at 3:49pm
 
deepthought wrote on Mar 29th, 2008 at 3:37pm:
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Its not my job to explain things to you that are tought to 10 year olds in school, maybe your a blow in since ww2 and you never learnt history at an Australian school, try going to tech they have classes for people like you who have had a limited education.





I'm not at all surprised to see you slink away without supporting yourself athiest.  It is as I said - leftards are high on rhetoric, slurs and allegations but low on facts, truth or integrity.  That's why they are leftards.

If you believed in yourself and knew what you were talking about you'd be willing to back your wild and baseless claims.  And if the knowledge was so readily available you'd tap it out in a moment.


From menzies oficial bio--

"In 1938, waterside unions put a ban on the export of iron to Japan in protest of Japanese actions in Manchuria (China). Menzies threatened them with Transport Workers’ Act 1929, and so forced them to load iron for Japan. Subsequently, he earnt the nickname "Pig Iron Bob"


Which Japan sent back to Australia in the form of bombs. I'll tell you what nothought, seeing as though you like everyone to put things in black and white, why dont you show me somthing that disputes what ive said. It seems my assumption you did not go to school in oz was correct so therefore you obviosly know bugger all about australia's past, and from the crap you write do not understand its present or recent past either.



Whoopsy Daisy athiest.  That says 1938 if I'm not mistaken.  Perhaps you could check your history book and find out just when WW2 started and just when Japan entered that war.

But you also said that someone (a rodent) "illegally invade(d) another country"

Your evidence if you would please.


Nothought you are clearly unaustralian but then your not really an ozzie at all are you?  it seems you know more about Japan than you do Oz, maybe your a nip, as for the rodent unless you have been living under a rock for the past 12 years (which may explain a lot) its your hero's nickname aptly named the lying little rodent by a member of his own party.
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Re: Liebor - a haven for criminals
Reply #46 - Mar 29th, 2008 at 3:51pm
 
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Nothought you are clearly unaustralian but then your not really an ozzie at all are you?  it seems you know more about Japan than you do Oz, maybe your a nip, as for the rodent unless you have been living under a rock for the past 12 years (which may explain a lot) its your hero's nickname aptly named the lying little rodent by a member of his own party.



It's irrelevant what I am or am not.   But your evidence if you please old chap.  Stop blustering and attempting to insult me.  Just back your empty claims mate.
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Reply #47 - Mar 30th, 2008 at 1:14pm
 
deepthought wrote on Mar 29th, 2008 at 3:51pm:
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Nothought you are clearly unaustralian but then your not really an ozzie at all are you?  it seems you know more about Japan than you do Oz, maybe your a nip, as for the rodent unless you have been living under a rock for the past 12 years (which may explain a lot) its your hero's nickname aptly named the lying little rodent by a member of his own party.



It's irrelevant what I am or am not.   But your evidence if you please old chap.  Stop blustering and attempting to insult me.  Just back your empty claims mate.



Whats the point, you live in denial, my 5 year old has better comprehension skills than you. Its all there for anyone who wants to look at the facts but you old chap seem to prefer fiction, a trait commonly practiced by right whingers.
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Reply #48 - Mar 30th, 2008 at 1:39pm
 
my 5 year old has better comprehension skills than you.

Although it's sad that you have been allowed to breed, you'd be better off giving control of the keyboard to your spawn.

She would probably make much more sense than you and I gather her childish taunts would trump yours emphatically
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Reply #49 - Mar 30th, 2008 at 1:45pm
 
IQSRLOW wrote on Mar 30th, 2008 at 1:39pm:
my 5 year old has better comprehension skills than you.

Although it's sad that you have been allowed to breed, you'd be better off giving control of the keyboard to your spawn.

She would probably make much more sense than you and I gather her childish taunts would trump yours emphatically


Oh goody I'm being trolled by noiq, lucky me, your so witty,ha ha ha
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Reply #50 - Mar 30th, 2008 at 1:51pm
 

Oh goody I'm being trolled by noiq, lucky me, your so witty,ha ha ha

This must be your 5 year old judging by the grammar.

Be a good little dear and go kick daddy in the nuts so you won't have to share your fathers measly pay packet with another sibling and the resultant reduced stream of idiot DNA will will be a bonus for the rest of the world
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Reply #51 - Mar 30th, 2008 at 1:57pm
 
IQSRLOW wrote on Mar 30th, 2008 at 1:51pm:
Oh goody I'm being trolled by noiq, lucky me, your so witty,ha ha ha

This must be your 5 year old judging by the grammar.

Be a good little dear and go kick daddy in the nuts so you won't have to share your fathers measly pay packet with another sibling and the resultant reduced stream of idiot DNA will will be a bonus for the rest of the world


Noiq, thats it I like it when you talk dirty, your a bit like a mozzy arn't you always buzzing about aimlessly. Hey havn't seen you at cracker lately, oh thats right your banned from there too, gee you must be running out of places to troll.
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Reply #52 - Mar 30th, 2008 at 2:04pm
 
Still at cracker Apeiest- you probably miss a lot of posts with only one eye open and a head full of poo
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Reply #53 - Mar 30th, 2008 at 3:32pm
 
try linux and a couple of others atheist.    Roll Eyes

Shes so hard to pick...lol
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Reply #54 - Mar 30th, 2008 at 3:50pm
 
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Nothought you are clearly unaustralian but then your not really an ozzie at all are you?  it seems you know more about Japan than you do Oz, maybe your a nip, as for the rodent unless you have been living under a rock for the past 12 years (which may explain a lot) its your hero's nickname aptly named the lying little rodent by a member of his own party.



It's irrelevant what I am or am not.   But your evidence if you please old chap.  Stop blustering and attempting to insult me.  Just back your empty claims mate.



Whats the point, you live in denial, my 5 year old has better comprehension skills than you. Its all there for anyone who wants to look at the facts but you old chap seem to prefer fiction, a trait commonly practiced by right whingers.


I reckon you should get that kid logged on.  I want to know how Menzies was exporting ore during the war as you alleged (yet provided evidence he had done so before the war only - in fact Menzies was not even PM when the war against Japan was declared by the allies) and which rodent got involved in which illegal war (and no evidence at all was provided).

Is the kid there?
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Reply #55 - Mar 31st, 2008 at 10:05am
 
deepthought wrote on Mar 30th, 2008 at 3:50pm:
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deepthought wrote on Mar 29th, 2008 at 3:51pm:
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Nothought you are clearly unaustralian but then your not really an ozzie at all are you?  it seems you know more about Japan than you do Oz, maybe your a nip, as for the rodent unless you have been living under a rock for the past 12 years (which may explain a lot) its your hero's nickname aptly named the lying little rodent by a member of his own party.



It's irrelevant what I am or am not.   But your evidence if you please old chap.  Stop blustering and attempting to insult me.  Just back your empty claims mate.



Whats the point, you live in denial, my 5 year old has better comprehension skills than you. Its all there for anyone who wants to look at the facts but you old chap seem to prefer fiction, a trait commonly practiced by right whingers.


I reckon you should get that kid logged on.  I want to know how Menzies was exporting ore during the war as you alleged (yet provided evidence he had done so before the war only - in fact Menzies was not even PM when the war against Japan was declared by the allies) and which rodent got involved in which illegal war (and no evidence at all was provided).

Is the kid there?




Any ozy would know Menzies was selling iron to japan, if you want to refute that go ahead , no one with an Australian education would be that silly, as for the rodent I sugest you do a bit of reading elsewhere, those far right loony neo con papers you are reading are dulling your brain.
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Reply #56 - Mar 31st, 2008 at 1:33pm
 
Any ozy would know Menzies was selling iron to japan

I knew nothing about it.

Just because we weren't yet at war with them doesn't make it OK. Whether it was 'wrong' would depend on the public mood regarding Japan's aggression at the time. If they were seen as a military threat to us and everyone else had stopped trading with them, then it would be wrong. For example, I'm pretty sure most of the AWB's crimes were committed before the current war began.
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Reply #57 - Mar 31st, 2008 at 2:19pm
 
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 1:33pm:
Any ozy would know Menzies was selling iron to japan

I knew nothing about it.

Just because we weren't yet at war with them doesn't make it OK. Whether it was 'wrong' would depend on the public mood regarding Japan's aggression at the time. If they were seen as a military threat to us and everyone else had stopped trading with them, then it would be wrong. For example, I'm pretty sure most of the AWB's crimes were committed before the current war began.




It's probably already mentioned among all that gibber ^^^^^^^ above DT, but the sale of iron to Japan pre-War was how he earned the tag "Pig Iron Bob."  There was general bitterness that what Bob sold to the Japs our Diggers were shot with it.
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Reply #58 - Mar 31st, 2008 at 6:21pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 2:19pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 1:33pm:
Any ozy would know Menzies was selling iron to japan

I knew nothing about it.

Just because we weren't yet at war with them doesn't make it OK. Whether it was 'wrong' would depend on the public mood regarding Japan's aggression at the time. If they were seen as a military threat to us and everyone else had stopped trading with them, then it would be wrong. For example, I'm pretty sure most of the AWB's crimes were committed before the current war began.




It's probably already mentioned among all that gibber ^^^^^^^ above DT, but the sale of iron to Japan pre-War was how he earned the tag "Pig Iron Bob."  There was general bitterness that what Bob sold to the Japs our Diggers were shot with it.


Were his actions illegal?
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Reply #59 - Apr 1st, 2008 at 10:37am
 
deepthought wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 6:21pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 2:19pm:
freediver wrote on Mar 31st, 2008 at 1:33pm:
Any ozy would know Menzies was selling iron to japan

I knew nothing about it.

Just because we weren't yet at war with them doesn't make it OK. Whether it was 'wrong' would depend on the public mood regarding Japan's aggression at the time. If they were seen as a military threat to us and everyone else had stopped trading with them, then it would be wrong. For example, I'm pretty sure most of the AWB's crimes were committed before the current war began.




It's probably already mentioned among all that gibber ^^^^^^^ above DT, but the sale of iron to Japan pre-War was how he earned the tag "Pig Iron Bob."  There was general bitterness that what Bob sold to the Japs our Diggers were shot with it.


Were his actions illegal?


No, just unaustralian. Menzies was more interested in Britain than Australia.He wouldn't even fight for his country,Menzies resigned his officers commision in 1915 to ensure he was not sent overseas to fight for his country, he was not a brave man.
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