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Is incest now legal in this country?
Apr 7th, 2008 at 9:11am
 
You would have assumed that the father and daughter would have been charged with some offence, but apparently they're just being monitored.  Strange.


A South Australian woman has given birth to her father's daughter after the couple had sex.

John and Jenny Deaves reunited 30 years after Mr Deaves separated from Jenny's mother.

Jenny was 31 and just two weeks after meeting, father and daughter had sex.

"John and I are in this relationship as consenting adults," Mrs Deaves told the Nine Network's 60 Minutes tonight.

"We are just asking for a little bit of respect and understanding."

Their nine-month-old daughter Celeste, shown on TV, appears fit and healthy.

Mrs Deaves said soon after reuniting with her father she began to see him as a man first and her father second.

"I was looking at him, sort of going, oh, he's not too bad.

"Like you might look at a man across the bar at a nightclub."

Mrs Deaves brought two children, Samantha and Alex, into the relationship after splitting from her former partner.

Mr Deaves admitted that he "initially" thought having sex with his daughter was wrong.

"Emotions take over, as people no doubt realise, there are times during your life where emotions do rule the heart, it rules the head," he said.

"I knew it was illegal, of course I knew it was illegal but you know, so what."

Mrs Deaves said the physical relationship with her father was like "a sexual relationship with any other man".

For Mr Deaves the sexual relationship was "absolutely fantastic".

A South Australian police media spokesman tonight told AAP "the couple is being monitored".


http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/dad-and-daughter-have-daughter/2008/04/07/1207420238498.html
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Reply #1 - Apr 7th, 2008 at 9:48am
 
Yes I saw this one mantra...very weird and the interveiwer almost normalised the union. They did not see anything wrong with it...the mind boggles, her own father. The child LOOKS normal enough..

I know of a few first cousins here and no doubt its common in other towns/cities as well , who've married and had kids.

So they are monitoring the couple? Sounds ridiculous to me. They will have relations regardless.



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Reply #2 - Apr 7th, 2008 at 11:03am
 
very weird and the interveiwer almost normalised the union

That's how you get people to talk.
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Reply #3 - Apr 7th, 2008 at 12:19pm
 
There was some news on it this morning.  60 minutes didn't tell the full story.  They had a child earlier in the relationship, which died shortly after birth with a congential heart defect, so they were lucky the second time around.

I didn't see the story on TV, but apparently they were charged earlier on in their relationship and are supposedly living together without having a sexual relationship.  Sure!

This isn't the first time I've heard of this happening - but it is taboo and unless there a stricter laws, something like this could end up being considered acceptable, although not common.
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Reply #4 - Apr 7th, 2008 at 7:59pm
 
Indeed - how are they going to "monitor the situation"?
A webcam in the bedroom?

No, It'll never be acceptable. For moral and health reasons.
Anyone unsure that is it wrong for a mum to shag her son?
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Reply #5 - Apr 9th, 2008 at 3:13pm
 
http://news.smh.com.au/police-probe-nine-offer-to-incest-pair/20080409-24uq.html

Police are investigating allegations of payment by the Nine Network to a South Australian father and daughter convicted of incest after having two children together.

John Earnest Deaves, 61, and his oldest daughter Jennifer, 39, allegedly gained financially from a 60 Minutes interview aired on Sunday about their seven-and-a-half year affair.

Hamish Thomson, the executive producer of 60 Minutes, said money was offered to the couple.

"We bought them some clothes and they might have to move town and we have offered to give them some money to cover the costs of their move, if that happens," he told News Ltd.

"We bought them some clothes because they are very poor.

"We literally bought them clothes for filming, from Target."

South Australian police are now investigating because under state law, convicted criminals cannot profit directly from their crime.

"It is being looked at," a police media spokesman said.

In March this year, the couple were placed on three-year good behaviour bonds after pleading guilty in the District Court in Mt Gambier to two counts of incest related to the sex that led to the births of their two daughters.
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Reply #6 - Apr 9th, 2008 at 8:24pm
 
This couple aren't the full quid, that much is obvious.  Their little girl didn't look quite normal either.  They are so sure they are right and all the media attention surrounding them is just desensitising people to the seriousness of their crime.



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Reply #7 - Apr 11th, 2008 at 5:44pm
 
It was legal when Australia was under Aboriginal rule.
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Reply #8 - Apr 11th, 2008 at 6:00pm
 
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It was legal when Australia was under Aboriginal rule.


I don't know if it was AN.  Aboriginal history tells us that they were very careful about inbreeding and would swap young girls from different tribes to ensure that there was genetic diversity amongst the clans.

It could be different now, but incest is apparently alive and thriving in all races and cultures.
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Reply #9 - Apr 11th, 2008 at 6:04pm
 
You're letting facts get in the way of convenient racial slurs.
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Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2008 at 2:31am
 
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Friday April 11, 05:43 PM
Incest couple to leave home after attack
A father and daughter in an incestuous relationship plan to move from their rural South Australian home because of a vandal attack.

John Earnest Deaves, 61, and his oldest daughter Jennifer, 39, have admitted having two children together, with one dying shortly after birth.

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In March this year, the couple were placed on three-year good behaviour bonds after pleading guilty in the Mt Gambier District Court in SA's south-east to two counts of incest related to the sex that led to the births of their two daughters.

Their first baby was born in 2001 but died a few days later due to a congenital heart disease. Their second daughter was born in May last year.

The pair went public last Sunday on the Nine Network's 60 Minutes program.

On Friday, Ms Deaves released a statement on the show's website describing the last week as "unbelievable, hectic and stressful".

"But we have no regrets about going public," Ms Deaves said.

"Public reaction has been varied.

"We have had support and, of course, we've had the expected negativity.

"We wanted to open some eyes and make people realise that genetic sexual attraction is out there and it's happening, and we feel we have achieved that."

Ms Deaves said they planned to leave their current home city.

"We do plan to move on from Mount Gambier, not because we are trying to hide from anyone or anything but because of the fact our car was vandalised," she said.

"People obviously know where we live and they could do this sort of thing again - hopefully not again, but you never know."

Ms Deaves said she wanted to clarify the death of their first child, Jackson, was from a congenital heart defect.

"Jackson's death has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that John and I are related," she said.

Ms Deaves said they were abiding by the court ruling, which stipulated they should not have further sexual intercourse.

She said they went public with their relationship "in order to bring awareness within society of genetic sexual attraction".

"We are currently planning a genetic sexual attraction foundation in order to promote research on GSA and to offer support to those that experience GSA," she said.

Police are investigating an alleged payment by the Nine Network to the Deaves.

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Reply #11 - Jul 4th, 2008 at 1:47am
 
Why is everyone so negative about this?

According to the Good 'ol Aussie values of Freedom and Secularism, shouldn't these two "consenting adults" be allowed to do whatever they like in their own bedroom? Isn't this what Aussie values are all about?

This highlights the clear problem in Australian society. You begin to sanctify freedom and inidvidualism, and you legalise fornication... then adultery... then homosexuality... then incest.... what's next? where does it all end? It doesn't, it is a constant spiral downwards, what will it take for people to realise that it leads to the decay of society?
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Reply #12 - Jul 4th, 2008 at 9:57am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Jul 4th, 2008 at 1:47am:
This highlights the clear problem in Australian society. You begin to sanctify freedom and inidvidualism, and you legalise fornication... then adultery... then homosexuality... then incest.... what's next? where does it all end? It doesn't, it is a constant spiral downwards, what will it take for people to realise that it leads to the decay of society?


That's right. There are no homosexuals in Iran. They made them illegal, so they don't exist. (Whisper: If they ever catch any, the secret police like to whip them, but it's our secret, right)

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2007/09/memo-to-mahmoud-iran-is-totally-ga...

As far as adultery is concerned, they should kill them all for their own good (stoning is a cheap option), especially if they happen to be women.

Let's bring some good old fashioned Muslim morality into play.

Persecute people who do nothing more than follow their natural sexual urges. That would work.
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Reply #13 - Jul 4th, 2008 at 11:46am
 
So you approve of incest muso?

You think it's a good wholesome Aussie Value?

As I remember, you're the one where I got the quote from about leaving people to do whatever they like in their bedrooms.
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Reply #14 - Jul 4th, 2008 at 12:16pm
 
Abu, incest creates victims. In our society we always put the chidlren first.
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