Australian Politics Forum - Is incest now legal in this country?

abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #15 - Jul 4^th, 2008 at 2:29pm You consider a 39yo a child? Strange...
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49062 At my desk.	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #16 - Jul 4^th, 2008 at 2:47pm No I don't. Though technically everyone is someone's child. No, I was referring to the deformed children you risk getting if you root your sister or your mother. That is why we ban incest, not because we want to infringe people's right to root their parents. Is incest elgal in Islam?
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Reply #17 - Jul 4^th, 2008 at 6:55pm

So if they agree to be "fixed up" so they can't have children, then you think it's ok?

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Is incest elgal in Islam?

I think you know enough about Islam to know the answer to that.

Perhaps you can put it in your wiki entry as another difference between Islam and Australian values. We prohibit incest, whilst you consider it to be perfectly fine, as long as you don't have kids.

Anyway as the girl said in the article, they have one perfectly healthy baby, and the other didn't die from an incest related disease...

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Reply #18 - Jul 4^th, 2008 at 7:12pm

I don't think support for incest is a typical Australian value. It is more of a taboo. It is only recently that incestual sex without consequence has become possible. It is a debate our society has not yet had.

Another reason for opposing it is that the relationship is more often than not an abuse of power, especially if it is intergenerational. The recent case in Austria comes to mind. I'm not sure if it would be possible to legalise it in a way that distinguished an abusive relationship from a 'consensual' one.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40751 Gender:	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #19 - Jul 4^th, 2008 at 7:55pm It's weird, incest is illegal here. yet these two are not charged with anything. Abu - the vast majority of aussies think incest is immoral.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49062 At my desk.	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #20 - Jul 4^th, 2008 at 9:50pm I would also be concerned about any law that could put pressure on vulnerable people to get desexed.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40751 Gender:	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #21 - Jul 4^th, 2008 at 10:09pm vulnerable ??? how about, simple minded people who bonk relatives and have retarded kids ?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38743 Gender:	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #22 - Jul 5^th, 2008 at 9:57pm What say ye about a mother who has had a hysterectomy bonking her son? And what say ye about the Adam and Eve story?
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Acid Monkey Gold Member Offline Goth Father Posts: 1064 EU Gender:	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #23 - Jul 11^th, 2008 at 4:59pm Abu, I'm confused. Correct me if I'm wrong, or please clarify. You see nothing wrong with incest. Perhaps, it's cultural. Or, are you just bringing this up to bash so-called "Australian values" (whatever that is) and Western ethics?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49062 At my desk.	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #24 - Jul 11^th, 2008 at 5:01pm No, I think he was claiming that westerners support incest, or at least lack the robust morality to reject it without question like he does.
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Reply #25 - Sep 19^th, 2008 at 1:33pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 4^th, 2008 at 1:47am:

Why is everyone so negative about this?

According to the Good 'ol Aussie values of Freedom and Secularism, shouldn't these two "consenting adults" be allowed to do whatever they like in their own bedroom? Isn't this what Aussie values are all about?

This highlights the clear problem in Australian society. You begin to sanctify freedom and inidvidualism, and you legalise fornication... then adultery... then homosexuality... then incest.... what's next? where does it all end? It doesn't, it is a constant spiral downwards, what will it take for people to realise that it leads to the decay of society?

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bliss Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95 Canberra Gender:	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #26 - Sep 19^th, 2008 at 11:17pm Genetic Sexual Attraction........... Not everything is black or white, right or wrong, good or bad, moral or immoral. http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/relationships/reunions_set_off_sex_urges.htm
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DILLIGAF Gold Member Offline Posts: 1259 The greens are red Gender:	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #27 - Sep 21^st, 2008 at 5:23pm Quote: abu_rashid wrote on Jul 4^th, 2008 at 6:55pm: So if they agree to be "fixed up" so they can't have children, then you think it's ok? [quote]Is incest elgal in Islam? We prohibit incest, Bullshit. I used to work with muslims and guess what- all were married to their cousins.
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Re: Is incest now legal in this country?
Reply #28 - Sep 22^nd, 2008 at 10:52am

abu_rashid wrote on Jul 4^th, 2008 at 1:47am:

Why is everyone so negative about this?

According to the Good 'ol Aussie values of Freedom and Secularism, shouldn't these two "consenting adults" be allowed to do whatever they like in their own bedroom? Isn't this what Aussie values are all about?

Maybe that is how some aussie muslims may understand it. If you dont understand Australian morals versus Australian values.........well come to think of it....... that is hardly surprising, because islam is the "one and only" correct way of living a in harmony with GOD isn't it??
Maybe you could drive a car loaded with explosives into a group of Australians to protest against incest.

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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Is incest now legal in this country? Reply #29 - Sep 22^nd, 2008 at 11:35am Quote: Abu, incest creates victims. In our society we always put the chidlren first. -FD Well that is a change of heart FD, I thought it was the "Parents' Rights" you were so vigorously defending recently? The rights of children did not even get a look in, in that debate.
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