Living in denial!

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Yes - because the UN inspectors were in Iraq during 2002 looking for WMD.

You stated in one of your earlier posts "Why do they believe Dauth is the only dude telling the truth (if Dauth did indeed say the things they claim) while the entire US and Australian governments are telling porkies?".

This conversation was recorded in the Minutes of Meeting of the Board of AWB on 27th February 2002.  Dauth stated the following and there is no reason to disbelieve him.  These Minutes were submitted to the Cole Inquiry and were accepted as credible by Cole. 

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You need to take your blinkers off.  Flugge was paid $1 million tax free for one week's work in Iraq and that was an extraordinary payment for an official to tie up a wheat contract.  Why the urgency - a commercial contract isn't a viable excuse, when so many facts have come to light since then.

What you fail to see is that the Howard government and the US government were lying to us about WMD in Iraq and their reasons to invade.  This has since been proved.   A second Iraq invasion had been planned a year or so before 9/11, but that is a whole different topic

Unfortunately Howard was a consummate liar, although it was part of his job and his nature.  The majority of Australians eventually saw through his consistent evasion and misrepresentation of the truth, although a few die-hards remain holding on to the remnants of his falsehoods. 

mantra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2008 at 10:07pm:


The UN program UNSCOM, later replaced by UNMOVIC, was a program of regular inspections to find WMD.  During the inspections the OFF program was set up to allow humanitarian aid to get through.

The inspections were ongoing (with a break in the late 90s when Saddam threw them out) but the OFF program continued even so.  Can you explain why the UN allowed it to proceed while they believed Saddam was using the kickbacks that they were apparently condoning to go towards building the WMD?

Can you tell me why the AWB (a wheat seller) is responsible for overseeing the UN OFF program?

Thank you for posting the correct information about Dauth.  It is as I expected - he merely predicted there could be an invasion and the AWB were putting in place some sort of risk management procedure.  He even said the Australian Government would have little notification of an impending war.  This verifies what I have said.

Are you sure the Australian PM and the US President were lying about WMD?

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When Colin Powell showed the world his little map pointing out WMD's in Iraq and used it as an excuse to invade  - I, as well as millions of others, knew this was a lie.  Not only was it obvious from his body language, it was a pathetic and ill planned fabrication that any prominent politician would be ashamed of. 

Howard may not have had first hand information to this lie, but I find it hard to believe that he wasn't given other reasons for this planned invasion - but told to use WMD's as an excuse.  Nelson confirmed it wasn't true last year.

I didn't say the AWB were responsible for overseeing the UN OFF program, but Flugge was there to get the contract sewn up tight before war was declared.

mantra wrote on Apr 8^th, 2008 at 10:45pm:


Yet only one post back you claimed the United Nations thought Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction. Remember I asked you this question.

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And you answered . . . .

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Yet now you say that you "as well as millions of others, knew this was a lie".




So the United Nations, the governments of many countries including Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States believed that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction and only you and your "millions of others" knew they did not?

Can you understand why your contradictory statements are hard to believe?

Even your hero, Pig Iron Kevvy, was taken in by the 'great lie'.  He called Iraq's Foreign Minister a liar because he believed Iraq really did have Weapons of Mass Destruction.


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mantra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2008 at 8:35am:


You can't figure it because you are not reading it.

My post has nothing to do with Flugge - it addresses the first part of your post.  Read it again ignoring your misapprehension it is about Flugge.

mantra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2008 at 8:19pm:


It did extend to the Ministers - hence the finding by Cole.

I suspect you are acting dumb now mantra.  Now you have been sprung switching your story.  Others may judge your sudden loss of comprehension.