yes sure helian.
Which article was that one ?

thanks helian. good on them

Hope you are sitting down.
When i was getting divorced I asked a muslim work associate to pray for me. he was surprised.
In honesty, I would not do that now.
because of the response i get when i query them and what i have learnt since then.

helian -
"You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. "
Matthew 5:13


my meeting with a "moderate" at a library put your theory to rest.
I have asked for a long time for a muslim to come here and had no takers.
I have been to muslim rooms and been banned.

they are moderate, till you query them.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 4^th, 2008 at 12:54am:

First of all. You don't query people Sprint.. You insult their beliefs and ask questions in an accusitive way. When a Muslim gives you the facts you ignore that and continue berating them with the same questions over and over until they react as any human would and leave or get angry with you. Then you go on and say they were extremists and not moderate.. It is a typical tactic I have come across many times, you are responsible for your own behavior and the way people react to you is a product of your treatment of them. No doubt it is obvious here why you even got divorced in the first place, I find it amazing anyone could put up with you when you have so much arrogance and pride and no humility or respect for anyone's opinion but your own. You constantly say you appreciate having a Muslim here but you actually don't.. The arrogance and hate you have are very evident and speak for themselves to show you to be fake. You exposed yourself.

The prophet Muhammad pbuh once said "even a mustard seed's worth of pride would prevent one from going to paradise"

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 4^th, 2008 at 1:29am:

you could say that.. I have had some truly amazing experiences with the Creator

Malik Shakur wrote on Jun 4^th, 2008 at 1:48am:



Call your imaginary friend Donald Duck, and the men in white coats haul you away, call him God, and you expect respect.
Go figure.

Please tell me Malik, why we do not see huge protests from Muslims, against the violent jerks who give you all a bad name?

They have no trouble getting together to protest for self interest, but n ot for the general good it seems.

A cartoon can inspire them to mass protest and violence on a global scale, but to deliver a message of peace and tolerance they cannot muster a girl scout meeting.

helian - I have heard that comment too.  Prob find it as .... elitist/smug/arrogant as you do

Try this one for them.
"thought Jesus says to not judge others, or you will be judged by the same measure ?"
Or " what is that quote, (acting innocently), something about "you hyprocrites are removing a speck of dust from your brothers eye, when yours has a whole plank in it !!

Or "It says you will be judged by what you have been given. So if someone was born in saudi, they will prob be a muslim.
On that basis, unjust to "punish" them for being a muslim.
Likewise, what about an infant that dies of starvation at 4 weeks old.
Going to "punish" the infant for not being a xian ???"


Good luck !!!

Falsification is not the only way to approach a debate. It's not all about truth. Beauty is just as important. Politics would be very boring if we only concerned ourselves only with the positive and ignored the normative.