Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 13
th, 2008 at 1:27pm:
the muslims were the new kids on the block. The pagans and jews were settled , stable and peaceable.
The muslims did the warring to start mohammads empire.
As supported in the koran.
mohammad slaughtered anyone who stood against his desired world domination.
Remember the Christians too were the new kids on the block at one stage and persecuted by the Roman pagans just as the Muslims were persecuted by the Quraishi Pagans in Mecca. The Muslims were beaten, stoned, tortured and executed.. and for what?
Your understanding of Islam is very limited. Do you know where some of the weakest Muslims fled to to escape persecution? The fled to Abyssinia, a Christian state to live under the protection of Emperor Negus. Let me relate to you, what happened when the Pagans sent an emissary named Amr bin Aas to try and get Negus to give them up.
When they were all assembled, the Negus spoke to them and said:
"What is this religion wherein ye have become separate from your people, though ye have not entered my religion nor that of any other of the folk that surround us?"Ja'far answered him saying:
"O King, we were people steeped in ignorance, worshiping idols, eating unsacrificed carrion, committing abominations, and the strong would devour the weak. Thus we were, until Allah (The One True God) sent us a Messenger from out of our midst, one whose lineage we knew, and his veracity and his worthiness of trust and his integrity. He called us unto God, that we should testify to His Oneness and worship Him and renounce what we and our fathers had worshiped in the way of stones and idols; and he commanded us to speak truly, to fulfil our promises, to respect the ties of kinship and the rights of our neighbors, and to refrain from crimes and from bloodshed. So we worship God alone, setting naught beside Him, counting as forbidden what He hath forbidden and as licit what He hath allowed. For these reasons have our people turned against us, and have persecuted us to make us forsake our religion and revert from the worship of God to the worship of idols. That is why we have come to thy country, having chosen thee above all others; and we have been happy in thy protection, and it is our hope, O King, that here with thee we shall not suffer wrong."
The royal interpreters translated all that he had said. The Negus then asked if they had with them any Revelation that their Prophet had brought them from God and, when Ja'far answered that they had, he said: "Then recite it to me," whereupon Ja'far recited a passage from the Surah of Mary, which had been revealed shortly before their departure:
And make mention of Mary in the Book, when she withdrew from her people unto a place towards the east, and secluded herself from them; and We sent unto her Our Spirit, and it appeared unto her in the likeness of a perfect man. She said: I take refuge from thee in the Infinitely Good, if any piety thou hast. He said: I am none other than a messenger from thy Lord that I may bestow on thee a son most pure. She said: How can there be for me a son, when no man hath touched me, nor am I unchaste? He said: Even so shall it be; thy Lord saith: It is easy for Me. That We may make him a sign for mankind and a mercy from Us; and it is a thing ordained. (Qur'an 19:16-21)The Negus wept, and his bishops wept also, when they heard him recite, and when it was translated they wept again, and the Negus said:
"This hath truly come from the same source as that which Jesus brought."Then he turned to the two envoys of Quraysh and said:
“Ye may go, for by God I will not deliver them unto you; they shall not be betrayed."But when they had withdrawn from the royal presence, 'Amr said to his companion: “Tomorrow I will tell him a thing that shall tear up this green growing prosperity of theirs by the roots. I will tell him that they aver that Jesus the son of Mary is a slave.” So the next morning he went to the Negus and said:
“O King, they utter an enormous lie about Jesus the son of Mary. Do but send to them, and ask them what they say of him."
So he sent them word to come to him again and to tell him what they said of Jesus, whereupon they were troubled, for nothing of this kind had ever yet befallen them. They consulted together as to what they should reply when the question was put to them, though they all knew that they had no choice but to say what God had said.
So when they entered the royal presence, and it was said to them: "What say ye of Jesus, the son of Mary?" Ja’far answered:
"We say of him what our Prophet brought unto us, that he is the slave of God and His Messenger and His Spirit and His Word which He cast unto Mary the blessed virgin."The Negus took up a piece of wood and said:
“Jesus the son of Mary exceedeth not what thou hast said by the length of this stick."And when the generals round him snorted, he added: "For all your snorting." Then he turned to Ja'far and his companions and said: "Go your ways, for ye are safe in my land. Not for mountains of gold would I harm a single man of you"; and with a movement of his hand towards the envoys of Quraysh, he said to his attendant: "Return unto these two men their gifts, for I have no use for them." So ‘Amr and the other man went back ignominiously to Mecca."
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