Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 6:53pm:

Can you elaborate on that? On exactly what context we are talking about?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 6:53pm:

You mean the same criteria of a prophet that the Jews applied to Jesus pbuh and then wanted him crucified? Yeah.. Very reliable lol..

Also there were a number of those belonging to the Jewish tribes who did become Muslim on hearing about Islam, just like many Jews also accepted Jesus phuh's message.

Both Jesus and Muhammad pbut spoke out against the deviation of the Jews and the Jews responded with hatred and animosity.

The Jews according to the bible had Jesus crucified for his speaking out against their behaviour.

All three Jewish tribes DID break the Constitution of Madinah, and they were dealt with fairly. Consider this question. Why, if Muhammad pbuh was unfair did the Banu Nadir and Banu Qurayza sit by and allow him to exile the Banu Qaynuqa and not respond to that? As the Banu Qurayza allowed Muhammad pbuh to exile the Banu Nadir. It's because it was they acknowledged the the other tribes had broken the Constitution.

Also the Banu Qurayza did initially refuse to join the Pagans in their attack on the Muslims. But they did finally accept the deal the pagans gave, thus breaking the treaty.. They banu Qurayza's forces did also raid a house where Muslim women and children were seeking refuge against the army of the Pagans. They killed everyone in there.

Anyway this thread is about the fictional Mohammad and his followers, I just mentioned Turkey because Malik was taking the usual stand of Mohammad being enlightened and bringing peace to the world, yet peace is not in their part of the world, never has been. I have also wondered why Muslims name their children Mohammad, why is that allowed, surely that is taking his name in vain.

pope urban 2 wrote on Jun 13^th, 2008 at 11:04pm:


I agree with you regarding people naming their children Muhammad, I don't understand why so many people do it, but then raise their children to be monsters who make Islam look bad. The least they could do would be to raise them properly as Good Muslims.

Your example of Turkey really was a bad example though, considering that they are so staunchly secular and infringe on Muslims rights to practice their religion in some cases.

you accept he was a massmurderer and involved in assassainations?

I dont mean to offend you malik.
Sorry, I'll delete that, ok ?

no, i did not see your comments on the some other thread.
I dont see everything and topics get lost easily.
so you can either point me to it, or delete your comments on this thread that allude to the same topic.

helian - apparently so, it is a very common name.
Jesus means "Who is with us" from memory.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 14^th, 2008 at 12:34am:

yes, but they name them after Jesus pbuh