mozzaok wrote on Jun 24
th, 2008 at 10:17am:
We see anti-Islamic people deriding mohammed as the "Pervert Prophet", because of the story that he wedded and bedded a nine year old girl, yet I assume there are passages in Islamic holy books which would denounce paedophilia as wrong.
So following that scenario, could not an Islamic paedophile use the example of Mohammed as justification for his acts, instead of listening to other messages which would tell him what he is doing is wrong?
That type of scenario is why I have big problems with people who rely on ancient texts to determine moral choices.
Also, if the thing about mohammed and the nine year old is true, it would need to be examined in the context of what were the accepted norms of his era, and I also would expect people to use similiar judgement on directions for defending their faith etc.
A good point Mozzaok..
Historical study tends to allude to the fact that Aisha was older than 9 when consummating her marriage with Muhamad pbuh, evidence leads us to believe she was probably between 15-20 years old.
Either way however, we know for a fact that Aisha had definitely started her period by that stage, thus considered a woman.
Our view of adolescence has changed somewhat over the last few hundred years, the idea that being 18 years old or even 21 makes you an adult in some places is a new thing, people have in the past been considered an adult at much younger ages actually, in some states in the USA u can marry as young as 14 years old with your parents and a courts permission.
Even in places like Yemen, you can get married very early, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the bride and groom will be having sex, in the majority of cases they sleep in separate rooms.. The time for them is to get to know each other better and have an environment around them which is supportive, kind of like an apprenticeship for marriage as they will live in one of their parents houses and see from their example how to be good husbands and wives.
I think today however, the story is somewhat different. People now don't grow up as fast because we've manufactured a world where we keep them young, they have to ignore some of their natural instincts and it builds friction.. we don't teach boys how to be men, but instead try and suppress any feelings they have and expect them to figure it out themselves, that only puts the young men in danger, because they need to be under the guidance of someone wise who can show them the way..
I'm a big believer in coming of age traditions, where certain tribes take their sons out into the wild for a period of time ranging from a few weeks to a few months, and teach them how to fight wars, how to survive, how to wrestle, how to build, kill, how to be good husbands and protect their families, how to control their aggression because that's what real men do..