It is understandable for Abu to highlight a verse like that, after all, the Christians on this site quote Koranic verses condoning violence all the time, yet try and pretend that the Bible is not full of violence also.

It is fair enough for him to point out their hypocrisy on this matter.

Of course, the extent of calls to violence in the Koran does seem a lot more abundant than in the Bible, and the relative scarcity of messages of love and peace in the Koran, also does not compare favourably with the bible.

We tried to do a thread like this on the Koran, and could not find much at all in the way of verses, promoting love and compassion, for all men.

It was more like a big book of rules, where they do promote brotherly love amongst muslims, but pretty much stuff all for the rest of us.

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Hand the man a cigar. One of the few other people around the place who actually gets it.

I had a good chat with a former officer in the Indian Army about Islam. And he implored me to try to tell others in Australia what my view was and how dangerous Islam was. He said, "Please sir, you must tell them..you must..they are hoodwinking your people sir, you will have terror everywhere just like India, that is why I left. Please sir, they will listen to you, you are white and one of them.'

I said to him 'I doubt they will listen to me either. But I will try. In defence of this country and its freedoms,  I will try.'

Wouldn't it be more truthful sprint to say you deleted my posts??

You've quite obviously left some posts of Calanen's which have absolutely nothing to do with Bible quotes.

Isaiah 30:1
Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:
.....8  Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
9  That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
10  Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
11  Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
12  Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:
13  Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.

Malachi 3:13
Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?
14  Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
15  And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
16  Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17  And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18  Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

2 Peter 3:3
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4  And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

Matthew 16:1
The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven.
2  He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
3  And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Matthew 24:32
Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

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He puffeth at them?

They were some of the weirdest quotes I have ever read, a good reflection of the whole, some good, some bad, but over ridingly, silly.

Jeremiah 23:1
Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
2  Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
3  And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
4  And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
5  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7  Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8  But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.



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Which version of the bible to read?

It has to be a personal preference.

Obviously sprint, and many others prefer the more modern [language] versions.

Myself and many others, prefer the good ol', ye KJV.

The bible i started reading as a child, was the KJV, and that version has 'stuck'.

In the past, i've tried reading modern versions, but the 'message' just doesn't 'come across' as well, for me, in the modern language versions.