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Reply #15 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 11:24am:
it is much more likely that there are "aliens" somwhere out there than it is to have some fictional "god"

How likely is it?



Well according to this bloke about 95%.

Professor Paul Davies and Dr Charles Lineweaver outline their hypothesis in the latest issue of the journal Astrobiology. They say the aliens in question are likely to be primitive microbes that sprang up some four billion years ago. At this time the Earth was being buffeted by a hail of meteors and giant asteroids during what's known as the Archaean bombardment. Alternately, microbial life forms may have arrived on Earth from space and unobtrusively co-existed with us. Davies, of the Australian Centre for Astrobiology at Sydney's Macquarie University, admits the theory is speculative but says some of these microbes may have survived undetected to this day. Multiple life events He says statistics indicate there's a 95% chance of life on other Earth-like planets, a figure that he extrapolates to Earth itself. "I think it's a possibility [there are aliens among us]," he says. "The basic idea is that if life is easy to form as many astrobiologists suppose, then surely it should be formed more than once on Earth. "From what we know about the early record of life on Earth it happened pretty fast once conditions became suitable. "It's fairly easy to then work out the probability that if life began here on Earth, which is the most Earth-like planet there is, there's about a 95% chance that it would have done it more than once, maybe twice, three times. Who knows?"

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2005/04/13/1343196.htm


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Reply #16 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:20pm
 
Whilst the chace of god is about 67%

"A scientist has calculated that there is a 67% chance that God exists."

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Reply #17 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:43pm
 
Do you take either of those estimates seriously?
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Reply #18 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:43pm:
Do you take either of those estimates seriously?


Why not, dont you? there as good an estimate as any one could come up with it just depends which way you swing.
I would think that people who believe in god are probably less likely to believe in aliens and visa versa.
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Reply #19 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:50pm
 
I believe in God and aliens!
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Reply #20 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:55pm
 
easel wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:50pm:
I believe in God and aliens!


Really?,

so do you reckon god created life on many planets? I suppose he could have, it only took him seven days on earth, didn't it?
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Reply #21 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:55pm
 
Atheist, both estimates would involve so many layers of assumptions that it would make them meaningless. They do not reflect the true liklihood at all. They merely reflect the assumptions made.
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Reply #22 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 1:20pm
 
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easel wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:50pm:
I believe in God and aliens!


Really?,

so do you reckon god created life on many planets? I suppose he could have, it only took him seven days on earth, didn't it?


I don't trust the Bible really anymore, it's a good book, but I'm not entirely sure it is divine.

I've had 5 people ask me if I was Jesus, and 1 say I was an angel. Only 2 of them were nutters.

Clearly it is not hard for people to assume you are heavenly or what have you, and back in those days, when it was extra superstitious, I'm sure it was much easier to get away with divine status.

Oh yes, I am not Jesus nor am I an angel.

I don't know what God did. Putting me here is hard enough to figure out anyway. I give myself headaches laying in bed at night thinking for hours about things like trying to imagine nothingness, why I am a human with feelings and emotions and what have you.

But yes, I believe in God and aliens. I hope aliens come and turn Earth in to some peaceful planet or something nice, or take me and my current girl of choice to a new pristine place they build (ala garden of Eden) and let us try our hand at establishing a civilisation. Don't wreck my thoughts by bringing inbreeding in to this.
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Reply #23 - Jun 30th, 2008 at 3:38pm
 
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freediver wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:43pm:
Do you take either of those estimates seriously?


Why not, dont you? there as good an estimate as any one could come up with it just depends which way you swing.
I would think that people who believe in god are probably less likely to believe in aliens and visa versa.


I think I read somewhere that religious people are more likely to believe in luck, horoscopes, ghosts and other supernatural phenomena. I'm not sure how reliable the source was though.

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Reply #24 - Jul 1st, 2008 at 11:42am
 
muso wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 3:38pm:
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freediver wrote on Jun 30th, 2008 at 12:43pm:
Do you take either of those estimates seriously?


Why not, dont you? there as good an estimate as any one could come up with it just depends which way you swing.
I would think that people who believe in god are probably less likely to believe in aliens and visa versa.


I think I read somewhere that religious people are more likely to believe in luck, horoscopes, ghosts and other supernatural phenomena. I'm not sure how reliable the source was though.



Come to think of it ,they probably do;God would be a remarkable thing.
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