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Reply #30 - Oct 13th, 2008 at 9:17am
 
well Revenant..the AFL hasnt given him the all clear yet anyway..that happens today someone said and he has been clean for the best part of the year.


Collingwood have had Private Investigators on his tail for 2 weeks and they  interviewed Police and his friends in Perth .. apparently he got a good report.

I dont think footy is worth the invasion he has had to endure..but thats his decision.
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Reply #31 - Oct 13th, 2008 at 9:46am
 
why going back to WC would be distasterous for Cousins..too much pressure...





"BEN Cousins is a rock star. Unless you have lived in Perth it is probably difficult to understand just how big Cousins is in the west.

Darren Lockyer is a big name in Queensland - but Cousins in Perth is on another level.

Blokes want to be him and women want to be with him.

Now, with the 2005 Brownlow medallist lodging an appeal to be allowed back into the AFL, the question being asked by administrators across the country is: "What would recruiting the recovering drug addict do to our club's brand?"

Brisbane should be applauded for its willingness to discuss recruiting Cousins - because the answer isn't crystal clear.

Just ask West Coast. The Eagles have about 45,000 members and a further 5000 sit on a waiting list.

No one has done more in West Coast's history to make the club as powerful as Cousins. At the end of last year, at the height of the Eagles' drug scandals, the club posted a profit of more than $6.6 million.

This year, with no Cousins and Chris Judd, crowds have fallen for the first time in a decade."
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Reply #32 - Oct 13th, 2008 at 9:18pm
 
oceanz wrote on Oct 13th, 2008 at 9:46am:
why going back to WC would be distasterous for Cousins..too much pressure...





"BEN Cousins is a rock star. Unless you have lived in Perth it is probably difficult to understand just how big Cousins is in the west.

Darren Lockyer is a big name in Queensland - but Cousins in Perth is on another level.

Blokes want to be him and women want to be with him.

Now, with the 2005 Brownlow medallist lodging an appeal to be allowed back into the AFL, the question being asked by administrators across the country is: "What would recruiting the recovering drug addict do to our club's brand?"

Brisbane should be applauded for its willingness to discuss recruiting Cousins - because the answer isn't crystal clear.

Just ask West Coast. The Eagles have about 45,000 members and a further 5000 sit on a waiting list.

No one has done more in West Coast's history to make the club as powerful as Cousins. At the end of last year, at the height of the Eagles' drug scandals, the club posted a profit of more than $6.6 million.

This year, with no Cousins and Chris Judd, crowds have fallen for the first time in a decade."


Well, if he ends up at the Mighty Pies I'll be expecting you to come across too. As long as you both behave yourselves.  Wink
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Reply #33 - Oct 13th, 2008 at 9:27pm
 
Revenant wrote on Oct 13th, 2008 at 9:18pm:
oceanz wrote on Oct 13th, 2008 at 9:46am:
why going back to WC would be distasterous for Cousins..too much pressure...





"BEN Cousins is a rock star. Unless you have lived in Perth it is probably difficult to understand just how big Cousins is in the west.

Darren Lockyer is a big name in Queensland - but Cousins in Perth is on another level.

Blokes want to be him and women want to be with him.

Now, with the 2005 Brownlow medallist lodging an appeal to be allowed back into the AFL, the question being asked by administrators across the country is: "What would recruiting the recovering drug addict do to our club's brand?"

Brisbane should be applauded for its willingness to discuss recruiting Cousins - because the answer isn't crystal clear.

Just ask West Coast. The Eagles have about 45,000 members and a further 5000 sit on a waiting list.

No one has done more in West Coast's history to make the club as powerful as Cousins. At the end of last year, at the height of the Eagles' drug scandals, the club posted a profit of more than $6.6 million.

This year, with no Cousins and Chris Judd, crowds have fallen for the first time in a decade."


Well, if he ends up at the Mighty Pies I'll be expecting you to come across too. As long as you both behave yourselves.  Wink


Yes I will follow closely Reverance- I could be a bit of both..can I ?..WC have fallen apart since he and Judd departed..so Im not too fussed about WC anymore.

Management of that club ( Nisbett and co) is the problem not one or 2 wayward players.

Yes Ill be a Pies supporter  if they get him. I think Ill be in good company.      Huh


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Reply #34 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 12:47pm
 
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Reply #35 - Oct 17th, 2008 at 1:12pm
 
Thats a  real shame Revenant.

If this keeps up he may find it tough to get a club.
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Reply #36 - Oct 18th, 2008 at 6:13pm
 
It deosn't sound good for Benny boy.
You might've already heard this tape which was released a couple of days ago regarding his U.S. drug binge last year.

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=649168



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Reply #37 - Oct 18th, 2008 at 9:25pm
 
So what

Its old news

Expect the rubbish to come out of the woodwork again like they did last time.

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Reply #38 - Oct 18th, 2008 at 11:00pm
 
It's old news, but the tape seems so much more damning.
If I was making the decision at the Bulldogs, I'd take him for a one year deal at a bargain basement price and on the proviso that if he screws up, he'll be out on his ear.

But then again, we've already got champion midfielders.
What we need is tall key position players, and the Saints shafted us into using our top pick for the father/son rule.
Thanks Sainters, you bunch of pricks.
Hope you fail dismally again.

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Reply #39 - Oct 18th, 2008 at 11:47pm
 
No worries at all amadd.

If we pick him up I'll be a very happy camper.

He's got plenty in him yet, just what we need.

I hope we don't cave like Collingwood, bunch of idiots.

He's worth at least 2 very good seasons and getting us to at least the top 4.

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Reply #40 - Oct 19th, 2008 at 12:14am
 
Well if you get him, then I hope he does well.
I also hope that Ray does well (he was a good pickup), as I hoped that Birss would do well.

A club like Collingwood is in a position to be falsely leading the way on morals because they have the cash behind them.

It's a pity that the struggling clubs need to resort to a dog eat dog attitude. The Saints and the Bulldogs have usually had a good connection, but they were thrown into the rivalry round to my dismay, and now lo and behold, there seems to be good reason to call you rivals.
Go figure.




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Give Cousins another go
November 18, 2008

League must give the Brownlow medallist a chance to ply his trade again.

NOTHING less than a late-breaking calamity, such as an arrest in broad daylight, can stop Ben Cousins from receiving the all-clear from the umpires known as the AFL Commission today.

Cousins will surely be allowed to resume his career — what choice does the AFL have but to allow him to ply his trade? He's passed the drug tests he wants to play, and, whether it wants him running around or not, legally and morally, the AFL must give him the opportunity to play.

But if the league won't be an impediment, he still has a significant hurdle to clear: the clubs and their innate conservatism.

As it stands, only two clubs, St Kilda and the Brisbane Lions, are known to have maintained an interest in Cousins. While one can never discount a late, opportunistic bid by a club once the player is definitely available, it seems unlikely that there will be any other bidders.

Collingwood, which made the early running and did undue diligence, got cold feet. Some at West Coast talked about it, but the Eagles were never going to accept Cousins back after the entire club had spent 12 months trying to repair the impression of a rampant drug culture.

Cousins' difficulty lies in the fact that hiring him represents unchartered territory: no club has ever knowingly attempted to take on a recovering drug addict, and, as such, the decision is much more complicated than the simple need for a hard-running, gun midfielder.

If it was merely about football and the ability to play the game, a dozen clubs would be jostling for him. But the decision to enlist Ben Cousins involves so much more than a judgement on his extraordinary prowess as a footballer.

Clubs ask not just whether he can get a kick, but whether he can truly kick the habit. They have to satisfy their leadership groups (not so hard) and corporate sponsors (much trickier) — the latter having increased clout in the current financial meltdown (sponsors were a factor in Collingwood's withdrawal). Ultimately, their board has to approve.

They need contingency plans in the event that he can't stay sober, and a strategy for dealing with the media circus and obsessive reporting of all that he does. They will ponder whether even a pristine Cousins would become an unwelcome distraction.

The Saints and Lions have to negotiate these various obstacles, neither club's board having yet given the formal green light. St Kilda's board has told the football department to "continue due diligence". In practice, the clubs with an interest can't take it any further until the AFL has freed him to play.

In the event that he is drafted — and we should not discount the possibility that he won't play again at the elite level — the club that picks him must downplay expectations, making it clear that, "Ben still has a long way to go" and that a relapse might occur. The last thing Cousins needs is the burden of unrealistic, Messianic expectations.

One suspects that, whatever individual commissioners think — and there are bound to be different shades of opinion in the room today— collectively, the AFL wouldn't be distressed if Cousins didn't grace the field again. He doesn't present the wholesome image that the hierarchy wishes to portray, especially in Sydney, where the National Rugby League's media allies are quick to jump on anything that makes AFL players look as antisocial as rugby's hoons.

That said, one can only hope that he gets back, not simply for his own health and well-being, but because of the inspiration he would provide.

And finally, lest we forget the reason, besides the drugs, that we find Cousins so riveting: He's a great footballer."







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Reply #42 - Nov 27th, 2008 at 10:19am
 

Looks his ego may count against him.
A 90% pay drop is irrelevant.


"BEN Cousins' bullet-proof pride has been punctured by rejection and he now faces a 90 per cent pay cut if he wants to resume his AFL career.

So sure was the fallen Eagle he would be offered a start at St Kilda, he twice declined invitations to travel to Brisbane to meet with the Lions in recent weeks.

But with the Saints out of the race and Brisbane last night deciding Cousins was not worth a pick in Saturday's national draft, any bargaining power the 2005 Brownlow medallist enjoyed has completely evaporated.

Having forced Lions coach Michael Voss and football manager Graeme Allan to fly to Perth for face-to-face talks at the weekend, Cousins was understood last night to be trying desperately to arrange a trip to Brisbane to press his case.

But the Lions, never fully committed to the recovering drug addict in the first place, have made it clear any move on Cousins will be on their terms.

It is understood there is room to move in Brisbane's salary cap but it is possible, if the club decides to take a punt on Cousins, he could be asked to play for a base wage with heavy incentives attached.

The AFL's minimum wage is $62,700 a season and minimum match payments are $2700, so even if Cousins played every game and topped up his income with bonuses he could still be pocketing $500,000 a season less than in his heyday at West Coast when he commanded between $600,000 and $700,000.

Brisbane's statement yesterday left the door ajar for Cousins in the pre-season draft, but it remains a matter that requires board approval.

"Should the Lions retain a vacancy on their playing list for the Pre-Season Draft and should Ben Cousins be available for the Pre-Season Draft, then the club will continue its process of due diligence in assessing this player after the weekend," the statement said.

The AFL confirmed Cousins lodged his nomination to enter the draft by yesterday's 1pm deadline, sparking industry speculation there was another club in the hunt that had yet to show its hand.

In a statement, Cousins took steps to remove himself from the threat to walk away from the game.

"As part of my ongoing rehabilitation it was my goal to nominate for the 2008 AFL National and Pre-Season Drafts," he said.

"I wish to clarify that at no stage did I say that I would not play football again following the conditions set down by the AFL Commission. While they are onerous they are understandable and achievable. I hope to get the opportunity to return to the game that I love.

"Playing football at the highest level again is an important part of my ongoing rehabilitation and I believe that I can be a valuable contributor at an AFL club."


http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24712245-10389,00.html


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Reply #43 - Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:07pm
 
Oh no! $62,000 a year. Whatever will he do?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #44 - Nov 30th, 2008 at 6:17pm
 
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Oh no! $62,000 a year. Whatever will he do?  Roll Eyes


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