Ad hominem already?

Classy chap.

mozza,

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Feel free to start a thread detailing for us what you think this new "progressive Islam" to be. Sorry I've just never heard of it before.

Just a point though that I might add. Islam is what Islam is. If someone takes Islam and tries to make it like something else, to conform it to someone elses beliefs (ie. to make it palatable for the West) is it really Islam anymore? It's like someone coming along and saying "Let's create a progressive communism" and then they do away with the communes and the state ownership and the planned economy any so forth and then say "Well here's our new progressive communism". It's no longer communism.

I think you just need to come to the realisation that Islam is a constant. Sure it has room to deal with new issues arising, but it will only ever be based on the original teachings. There's absolutely no room for cancelling the original teachings and inventing new ones. In this way Islam is very different from Christianity, and even to some extent Judaism, the strength of Islam is in it's consistency and in it's staunch adherence to sound principles. These are the things you're suggesting we strip from it, and I'm sad to break it to you, but it ain't gonna happen.

jordan,

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How is posting a cartoon part of any dialogue? You know full well you just want to do it to be mischievous, and to prove "see nobody's going to tell me what I can and can't do", you're like a rebellious little teenager, please grow up a little. this just indicates you're not sincerely interested in fruitful and mature dialogue, you just want to misbehave like a naughty little child, testing the limits.

Instead of harking on about how you might get banned, you should seriously look at the pathetically childish image you're portraying to others.

abu_rashid wrote on Aug 1^st, 2008 at 10:13pm:

You came in with all guns blazing telling me I'm a liar and I don't really like this or that and so on....so I don't think I'll be taking any advice from you about how childish you think I'm being. I haven't seen too much in the way of mature dialogue from you. You make far too many assumptions and I don't respect how you present yourself.

See, that's the thing. You try really hard to take the moral high ground, be the good debater, the polite poster.....and then have to get a little dig in all the same, about my life, my person....some little comment to try and make me feel bad about who I am. You almost have people fooled into believing you're a kind, gentle, diplomatic poster.....but you just can't quite keep it together enough....the real you comes out in the end.

Even Sprintcyclist is welcome to come into this forum and post if he's willing to do it without insulting and inciting hatred.

His slate can be clean and we can start over. I'm sure that he'd make some very good points and debate well.

Oh yeah, I don't want to be sued, either.

Pathetic.

How nice for you, the christians and the jews.

You say you require respect. I haven't seen you or abu respect me since I've been here. But please do continue living in your fantasy land of your perfection and everyone elses rudeness.

Yet another example of free speech being stifled by religion.

Enjoy your little love-in.

Malik Shakur wrote on Aug 1^st, 2008 at 10:55pm:


I think it is. That's my right to have that opinion. You call it disrespect. I call it the truth.