Like I already acknowledged when I first said that Gandalf, I do not have a poll so I am not going to go into detail.

It's the same evidence I have been presenting throughout this thread. Even your own words reflect very badly on the muslim community.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 8:40am:



Remember this, Gandy? Cartoonist goes into hiding IN AMERICA because of death threats Muslims OUTSIDE AMERICA.


On the Advice of the FBI, Cartoonist Molly Norris Disappears From View
Her work won't be in Seattle Weekly anymore, or anywhere else.
By Mark D. Fefer Tue., Sep 14 2010 at 12:00AM
   
You may have noticed that Molly Norris' comic is not in the paper this week. That's because there is no more Molly. The gifted artist is alive and well, thankfully. But on the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is, as they put it, "going ghost": moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity. She will no longer be publishing cartoons in our paper or in City Arts magazine, where she has been a regular contributor. She is, in effect, being put into a witness-protection program—except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab. It's all because of the appalling fatwa issued against her this summer, following her infamous "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" cartoon. Norris views the situation with her customary sense of the world's complexity, and absurdity. When FBI agents, on a recent visit, instructed her to always keep watch for anyone following her, she joked, "Well, at least it'll keep me from being so self-involved!" It was, she says, the first time the agents managed a smile. She likens the situation to cancer—it might basically be nothing, it might be urgent and serious, it might go away and never return, or it might pop up again when she least expects it. We're hoping the religious bigots go into full and immediate remission, and we wish her the best.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 8:40am:


Poo? Good heavens, FD won't like that.

The old boy, on the other hand...

Karnal wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:00pm:



Here's some British data:



When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law. According to the report, "Half of those who express a preference for living under Sharia law say that, given the choice, they would move to a country governed by those laws."

Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state. This comports with last year's Daily Telegraph newspaper survey that found one-third of British Muslims believe that Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to end it.

The news is no less alarming on the question of freedom of speech. Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who "insult Islam." When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.

Also concerning freedom of speech, as the NOP Research survey reports, "hardcore Islamists" constitute nine percent of the British Muslim population. A slightly more moderate group is composed of "staunch defenders of Islam." This second group comprises 29 percent of the British Muslim population. Individuals in this group aggressively defend their religion from internal and external threats, real or imagined.

The scary reality is that only three percent of British Muslims "took a consistently pro-freedom of speech line on these questions."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-british-muslims-put-islam-first/

Karnal wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 2:34pm:



I'd much rather we did no reach  critical mass of Muslim radicals, and then needing to manage them.  The reality, though, is that any Western country that acquires a certain level of Muslim population thereby acquires such a critical mass of Muslim radicals and terrorism against the Western host country follows.

We will also have Muslim terrorism on Australian soil once the numbers reach a critical point. Australia has no colonial history like many European countries and it is an immigrant country. The reaction to a segment of immigrants committing terrorism against the rest of Australia and against the symbols and institutions of the Australian that has absorbed so may immigrants and has given them a great life will be quite different to the European hand-wringing.

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 11:21am:


That is terrible.  However, as usual you blame an entire religion for the crimes of a few misguided adherents who have taken a wrong turning in their interpretation, Soren.   You accept their interpretation, indeed, rejoice in it rather than accept what the mainstream Muslims say or do.   I wonder why?  Perhaps it's because it satisfies your desire to justify your Islamophobic bigotry?   

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 7:44pm:



It is F***k happening REGARDLESS of what the completely irrelevant and ineffectual MAINSTREAM Musims say or do.

That is the point, my amazingly stupid interlocutor. The mainstream are making NO difference to this kind of bloody Islamic violence to decency.

Their total impotence makes them guilty.