Islam is a religion. Semite is a race. If someone were to attack Arabs in the same way, the same rules should apply.

tell me, how does making anti-Jewish statements offend me, a semite who is not jewish?

Uh, perhaps you should explain that one to us.

Are you saying that racism is not ok, but religous bigotry is.

Pretty much. Criticism of religion is fine. Religious discrimination isn't.

Making derogatry comments on one based on race is not acceptable, however, making derogatry comments based on ones religon is.

Close.

Anyway, its a moot point, as Judism is not a race, it is a religon, despite the propaganda. Fact is that genetically speaking, I am closer to Shephardic jews then they are to Ashkenazi jews.

Perhaps thats why they refer to it as anti semitism. Gassing Jews is bad, regardless of whether it is motivated by race or religion.

mozzaok wrote on Aug 6^th, 2008 at 12:50pm:


No it is actually you that is dense.

Jews have a choice and control over there beliefs. Judism is a religon, not a race. Do you understand this or would you like me to dumb it down for you.

If a jew decided he no longer wanted to be jewish, and converted to Islam, then he would cease to be jewish and would become muslim.

Does this make sense or am I confusing you?

Therefore being critical of jews (or anti-semetic as you put it) is no different to being critical of muslims. Only difference is that one is rejected by society, whereas Islam-bashing is the in thing at the moment.

Both are examples of religous bigotry. The fact that you defend one as free speech and attack the other as racism says more about yourself then anything else.

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2008 at 12:07pm:


No...perhaps you should. Are arabs semite's or aren't they? Simple question really.

So being anti-semetic by attacking jews (which is a religon, not a race) is not ok, but attacking arabs (who are also semetic) is ok, because this is free speech (only if they're muslim ofcourse).

Your double standards are staggering.

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2008 at 12:07pm:


Religous bigotry almost always results in religous descrimination.

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2008 at 12:07pm:


At least you ackowledge your double standards. It a shame....a long career with the SS would of been at your beckoning...if only you were alive at a different time.

Shame...

[freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2008 at 12:07pm:


Of course it is. But killing muslims is good...right? Even if they are semetic.

After all, you already did say that attacking people based on race is not on, but attacking people based on religon is totally acceptable.

Killing jews is anti-semetic, yet killing muslim arabs is a political necessity, even though they too are semite's.

hmmmm, your very quickly losing credibility. Keep going freediver, your digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole. Its good though...good to be honest with yourself and those around you.

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A lot of muslims certainly seem to think so lestat.

Especially intellectuals who do not march to the fundamentalist drum, clearly apostates, now what do you do to apostates again?

mozzaok wrote on Aug 6^th, 2008 at 1:43pm:


So do you agree with them? Is killing muslims good?

What do I do to apostates? Nothing.


Have you figured out the history and meaning of the word 'infidel' yet? Anything else you'd like me to teach you. Just ask...don't be ashamed.

Do jewish people cease to be jewish if they stop practicing judaism?

Your point would be taken more seriously, if any questioning of Islamic beliefs was not always classified by fundamentalists, as an attack on all muslim people.

I have heard that moderate muslims are like virgins, you hear talk of them, you just don't meet many.