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Reply #780 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 8:07pm

|dev|null wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Soren wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 5:42pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 3:22pm:

So does all the other religions if they believe they can get away with it. Forgotten "Piss Christ" Soren? Grin

How many people were killed over that little effort?
None.

How many threats were issued? Many. Looks to me like there are plenty of Christian crazies out there, hiding under their rocks Soren. Christian crazies which you like to ignore because they stop you from being able to persecute people on the basis of their religion. Cheesy

Nobody was killed or even hurt.

Very pertinent point, don't ignore it.

I'm not. Why are you ignoring the point threats were issued? Too afraid to admit it? Cheesy

Threats versus actual dead bodies - there is a very significant difference.

"I'll bollock you" versus you being actually killed is a BIG difference.

Totally lost on you and Brain, of course but then you don't understand even the most rudimentary things. All that swivelling eye stuff prevents you from focusing. Ever.

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Reply #781 - Feb 25^th, 2015 at 10:49am

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Soren wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 5:42pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 3:22pm:

So does all the other religions if they believe they can get away with it. Forgotten "Piss Christ" Soren? Grin

How many people were killed over that little effort?
None.

How many threats were issued? Many. Looks to me like there are plenty of Christian crazies out there, hiding under their rocks Soren. Christian crazies which you like to ignore because they stop you from being able to persecute people on the basis of their religion. Cheesy

Nobody was killed or even hurt.

Very pertinent point, don't ignore it.

I'm not. Why are you ignoring the point threats were issued? Too afraid to admit it? Cheesy

Threats versus actual dead bodies - there is a very significant difference.

Still indicative of the mindsets of many Christians Soren. As much as you wish to sweep it under the carpet and ignore it, loonies exist in all religions/political ideologies/etc. You're the perfect example amongst the Islamophobes! Grin

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Re: Is Islam against free speech?
Reply #782 - Feb 25^th, 2015 at 12:59pm

So not killing people, despite being insulted by the things they publish, is indicative the the mindset of many Christians, whereas a murderous rage in response to insulting cartoons (and plenty of other things) is indicative of the mindset of many Muslims.

Piss Christ demonstrates more clearly than anything else the vast gulf between Islam and the civilised world on issues like freedom of speech, and the hypocrisy of those who try to use it to defend Islam.

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Reply #783 - Feb 25^th, 2015 at 2:44pm

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 12:59pm:

So not killing people, despite being insulted by the things they publish, is indicative the the mindset of many Christians, whereas a murderous rage in response to insulting cartoons (and plenty of other things) is indicative of the mindset of many Muslims.

Is it? You can prove this FD? Or is this merely supposition on your part, again? Grin

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Reply #784 - Feb 25^th, 2015 at 3:41pm

|dev|null wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Soren wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 5:42pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 3:22pm:

So does all the other religions if they believe they can get away with it. Forgotten "Piss Christ" Soren? Grin

How many people were killed over that little effort?
None.

How many threats were issued? Many. Looks to me like there are plenty of Christian crazies out there, hiding under their rocks Soren. Christian crazies which you like to ignore because they stop you from being able to persecute people on the basis of their religion. Cheesy

Nobody was killed or even hurt.

Very pertinent point, don't ignore it.

I'm not. Why are you ignoring the point threats were issued? Too afraid to admit it? Cheesy

Threats versus actual dead bodies - there is a very significant difference.

Still indicative of the mindsets of many Christians Soren.

It is, thanks for conceding it. Didn't think it was in you, mentally speaking.

But yes, the different mindsets are well illustrated. Christians might threaten but don't actually harm you. Muslims threaten and then go through with it and kill you.
Different mindsets and standards of conduct indeed.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95930 Gender:	Re: Is Islam against free speech? Reply #785 - Feb 25^th, 2015 at 10:53pm They’re certainly killing you, old boy.
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Re: Is Islam against free speech?
Reply #786 - Feb 25^th, 2015 at 11:48pm

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 12:59pm:

So not killing people, despite being insulted by the things they publish, is indicative the the mindset of many Christians, whereas a murderous rage in response to insulting cartoons (and plenty of other things) is indicative of the mindset of many Muslims.

Piss Christ demonstrates more clearly than anything else the vast gulf between Islam and the civilised world on issues like freedom of speech, and the hypocrisy of those who try to use it to defend Islam.

Muslims would be trashing our business centers until this day if they put a TURD in a Jar and labelled it Muslim Brain. Let alone a Pissed Mohammered.

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Re: Is Islam against free speech?
Reply #787 - Feb 26^th, 2015 at 11:20am

Soren wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 3:37pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Soren wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 5:42pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 3:22pm:

So does all the other religions if they believe they can get away with it. Forgotten "Piss Christ" Soren? Grin

How many people were killed over that little effort?
None.

How many threats were issued? Many. Looks to me like there are plenty of Christian crazies out there, hiding under their rocks Soren. Christian crazies which you like to ignore because they stop you from being able to persecute people on the basis of their religion. Cheesy

Nobody was killed or even hurt.

Very pertinent point, don't ignore it.

I'm not. Why are you ignoring the point threats were issued? Too afraid to admit it? Cheesy

Threats versus actual dead bodies - there is a very significant difference.

Still indicative of the mindsets of many Christians Soren.

It is, thanks for conceding it. Didn't think it was in you, mentally speaking.

Still not conceding my superiority Soren? Such a bad mistake of yours not to! Cheesy

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But yes, the different mindsets are well illustrated. Christians might threaten but don't actually harm you. Muslims threaten and then go through with it and kill you.
Different mindsets and standards of conduct indeed.

I am sure this is all news to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith! Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Is Islam against free speech? Reply #788 - Feb 26^th, 2015 at 12:01pm SweetLambo wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 11:48pm: Muslims would be trashing our business centers until this day if they put a TURD in a Jar and labelled it Muslim Brain. not to mention halal certified.
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Re: Is Islam against free speech?
Reply #789 - Feb 27^th, 2015 at 10:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 26^th, 2015 at 12:01pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 11:48pm:

Muslims would be trashing our business centers until this day if they put a TURD in a Jar and labelled it Muslim Brain.

not to mention halal certified.

yes halal certified like the pissed mohammed jar but no sticker of course because the company just knows how much the population likes halal terrorist taxes.

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Re: Is Islam against free speech?
Reply #790 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 1:41pm

|dev|null wrote on Feb 26^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

Soren wrote on Feb 25^th, 2015 at 3:41pm:

But yes, the different mindsets are well illustrated. Christians might threaten but don't actually harm you. Muslims threaten and then go through with it and kill you.
Different mindsets and standards of conduct indeed.

I am sure this is all news to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith!

Not at all. The last execution by the Inquisition was 200 years ago. The last execution by Muslims in the name of Islam is going on every day.

You are not doing any great service to Islam or Muslims, HB. Having a plonker like you on their side just embarasses them even further.

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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: Is Islam against free speech? Reply #791 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:13pm I have no problems with him being on their side. Thank God he ain't on anyone elses.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41954	Re: Is Islam against free speech? Reply #792 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:50pm SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:13pm: I have no problems with him being on their side. Thank God he ain't on anyone elses. Whom?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Is Islam against free speech? Reply #793 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 4:41pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:13pm: I have no problems with him being on their side. Thank God he ain't on anyone elses. Whom? Who, Brain, not whom, my error-prone li'l pedant. HB. And you of course. You are both great assets for debunking Islam.
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Re: Is Islam against free speech?
Reply #794 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 5:00pm

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

I have no problems with him being on their side. Thank God he ain't on anyone elses.

Whom?

Who, Brain, not whom, my error-prone li'l pedant.

HB. And you of course. You are both great assets for debunking Islam.

More ad hominem debate, Soren? How unsurprising... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Question: most effective attacks on our freedom of speech?
Muslims preventing people from mocking Muhammed 11 (55.0%) Journalists not reporting some ASIO intel ops 4 (20.0%) Something else 5 (25.0%) Total votes: 20 « Created by: freediver on: Oct 9^th, 2014 at 12:43pm »