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Aug 17th, 2008 at 9:03am
 
THE TOP 40
REASONS TO DOUBT THE OFFICIAL STORY OF SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001

... An outline in simple talking points ...


We are continuing to compile the best documentation links for every single point on this page, and intend to post the updated version as soon as possible, and create teaching tools and more from the info. This is a significant and time-consuming process--if you have useful links, please send them to janice[at]911truth[dot]org. Thanks for your help!
If you use the search function with title key words, you will discover that 911Truth.org is home to articles backing virtually every point made below. Much of the basic research is available at the Complete 9/11 Timeline (hosted by cooperativeresearch.org), the 9/11 Reading Room (911readingroom.org), and the NY Attorney General Spitzer petition and complaint (Justicefor911.org). For physical evidence discussion, see Point 7.


THE DAY ITSELF - EVIDENCE OF COMPLICITY

1) AWOL Chain of Command
a. It is well documented that the officials topping the chain of command for response to a domestic attack - George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Myers, Montague Winfield - all found reason to do something else during the actual attacks, other than assuming their duties as decision-makers.
b. Who was actually in charge? Dick Cheney, Richard Clarke, Norman Mineta and the 9/11 Commission directly conflict in their accounts of top-level response to the unfolding events, such that several (or all) of them must be lying.
2) Air Defense Failures
a. The US air defense system failed to follow standard procedures for responding to diverted passenger flights.
b. Timelines: The various responsible agencies - NORAD, FAA, Pentagon, USAF, as well as the 9/11 Commission - gave radically different explanations for the failure (in some cases upheld for years), such that several officials must have lied; but none were held accountable.
c. Was there an air defense standdown?

3) Pentagon Strike
How was it possible the Pentagon was hit 1 hour and 20 minutes after the attacks began? Why was there no response from Andrews Air Force Base, just 10 miles away and home to Air National Guard units charged with defending the skies above the nation''s capital? How did Hani Hanjour, a man who failed as a Cessna pilot on his first flight in a Boeing, execute a difficult aerobatic maneuver to strike the Pentagon? Why did the attack strike the just-renovated side, which was largely empty and opposite from the high command?

4) Wargames
a. US military and other authorities planned or actually rehearsed defensive response to all elements of the 9/11 scenario during the year prior to the attack - including multiple hijackings, suicide crashbombings, and a strike on the Pentagon.
b. The multiple military wargames planned long in advance and held on the morning of September 11th included scenarios of a domestic air crisis, a plane crashing into a government building, and a large-scale emergency in New York. If this was only an incredible series of coincidences, why did the official investigations avoid the issue? There is evidence that the wargames created confusion as to whether the unfolding events were "real world or exercise." Did wargames serve as the cover for air defense sabotage, and/or the execution of an "inside job"?

5) Flight 93
Did the Shanksville crash occur at 10:06 (according to a seismic report) or 10:03 (according to the 9/11 Commission)? Does the Commission wish to hide what happened in the last three minutes of the flight, and if so, why? Was Flight 93 shot down, as indicated by the scattering of debris over a trail of several miles?


THE DAY - POSSIBLE SMOKING GUNS

6) Did cell phones work at 30,000 feet in 2001? How many hijackings were attempted? How many flights were diverted?

7) Demolition Hypothesis
What caused the collapse of a third skyscraper, WTC 7, which was not hit by a plane? Were the Twin Towers and WTC 7 brought down by explosives? (See "The Case for Demolitions," the websites wtc7.net and 911research.wtc7.net, and the influential article by physicist Steven Jones. See also items no. 16 and 24, below.)
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http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
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Re: the top 40 reasons to doubt the official 911 consp
Reply #1 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 9:37am
 
Gotta love conspiracy theories.

Can you make a thread about the "fake" moon landings as well?

Roswell too?
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Reply #2 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 3:58pm
 
did you know NORAD were scrambled 67 times, yes, sixty seven times, in the 6 months before 911. but did not intercept any of the 4 aircraft on 911 from the first hijack to last crash...

NORAD was actually told to STAND DOWN....!

no one was sacked for the security failures of 911. there were actually promotions....

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wow
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Reply #4 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:09pm
 
imperial wrote on Aug 17th, 2008 at 3:58pm:
did you know NORAD were scrambled 67 times, yes, sixty seven times, in the 6 months before 911. but did not intercept any of the 4 aircraft on 911 from the first hijack to last crash...

NORAD was actually told to STAND DOWN....!

no one was sacked for the security failures of 911. there were actually promotions....


Imperial,

About 9/11...

What do you believe?

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Reply #5 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:18pm
 
what do i believe...? good question. i have an open mind about it. however, i dont believe the official yarn. there are lies hidden between truths.

who benefits? the military industrial complex, oil industry, those with an agenda to tighten laws governing citizens, the elite, etc. do they all come under one umbrella? if so what is that umbrella? there are a few candidates where all these interests meet. bilderberg, illuminati, club of rome, or some gathering that i havent heard of...

but no. al ciada, and OSB didnt plan it....
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Reply #6 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:25pm
 
...and you know all this because.....??
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Reply #7 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:29pm
 
i know it as you know the official yarn is a fact.

the difference is......i made up my own mind. you were spoon fed.
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Reply #8 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:33pm
 
I've read some of the more popular theories. They tend to either focus on faulty technical arguments, or they play up the inevitable inconsistencies and confusion in initial accounts while ignoring the consistent eyewitness evidence.

9/11:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1205664741
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Reply #9 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:37pm
 
imperial wrote on Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:29pm:
i know it as you know the official yarn is a fact.

the difference is......i made up my own mind. you were spoon fed.

How did you make up your own mind?
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Reply #10 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:39pm
 
what??? the eyewitness evidence of bombs exploding in the buildings? the foyers being blown out? people standing in the wound of the towers on the floor that was supposed to be so hot it melted steel....?

read professor jones paper on 911...

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/WhyIndeedDidtheWorldTradeCenterBuildingsCompletelyCollapse

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Reply #11 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:41pm
 
How about you take a deep breath and start presenting your arguments a little clearer?
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Reply #12 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:45pm
 
For starter imperial, you cannot 'see' a bomb going off. What you can see is an explosion. And a desk jockey isn't likely to be able to tell the difference between and explosion caused by a bomb and one caused by a jumbo hitting a building at high speed.

Talk to a policeman. In any major event like a shooting, you will get wildly varying eyewitness accounts. That you get a few strange ones from 9/11 is to be expected. It's not exactly solid ground to build your case one.
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Reply #13 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:48pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:45pm:
For starter imperial, you cannot 'see' a bomb going off. What you can see is an explosion. And a desk jockey isn't likely to be able to tell the difference between and explosion caused by a bomb and one caused by a jumbo hitting a building at high speed.

Talk to a policeman. In any major event like a shooting, you will get wildly varying eyewitness accounts. That you get a few strange ones from 9/11 is to be expected. It's not exactly solid ground to build your case one.


FD. hehehehe. thats really funny...and i have no idea what you are talking about...

jordan. what do you want me to explain?

free movie. really excellent... http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=129
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Reply #14 - Aug 17th, 2008 at 4:52pm
 
Actually, nevermind.
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