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Re: MULTICULTI IS A DISASTER
Reply #15 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:30am
 
Grendel wrote on Feb 23rd, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2017 at 4:01pm:
Grendel wrote on Feb 23rd, 2017 at 1:37pm:
HELLO BWIAN....


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More ad homimen being trumpeted, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk, you really do have problems with being civil, don't you?    Roll Eyes

really?

You really think HELLO BWIAN is ad hom? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
You really do need help.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Yes it is, ad hominem, Geoff.  When you use my real name, I'll listen to you.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #16 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 7:38am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:30am:
Grendel wrote on Feb 23rd, 2017 at 10:10pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 23rd, 2017 at 4:01pm:
Grendel wrote on Feb 23rd, 2017 at 1:37pm:
HELLO BWIAN....


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  More ad homimen being trumpeted, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk, you really do have problems with being civil, don't you?    Roll Eyes

really?

You really think HELLO BWIAN is ad hom? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
You really do need help.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Yes it is, ad hominem, Geoff.  When you use my real name, I'll listen to you.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Well brian when you start acting like a normal person with some credibility and respect others.  When you stop being a lying hypocrite.   I will treat you with some respect....  until then YOU need to improve YOUR game or you'll still be bwian to me.

Where is my UNRESERVED APOLOGY BWIAN....  no more diversions, no more crap.
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Reply #17 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:23am
 
Bwian's idea of an UNRESERVED APOLOGY.... Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:37am:
OK, an unreserved apology.  I apologise, Grendel.  You have shown that you are not a racist.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, although I find it interesting that you are today posting in a thread "racism is a right" without attacking racism, yet in 2008, you posted in a thread "racism is wrong" attacking racism.   So, have you changed your mind about racism?

Now, how about the Xenophobia and Islamophobia?    Roll Eyes

Still a lying decitful hypocrite...
First that is not UNRESERVED bwian in fact it is hardly an apology at all.
You were wrong and are still a liar and continue to lie and  libel me on this site.  You are a dishonest hypocrite bwian.

Your postings on Racism is Right 99% of your posts are simply yawns bwian, are you a RACIST?  My post to you simply say you will not win the debate using those tactics...  so no more lies eh...  Aussie accuses me of dragging this on and on and on....  well I've been putting up with this crap for 2 decades...  YOU NEED TO MAN UP BWIAN.

I've proved I am no racist, xenophobe or Islamophobe.

WHERE IS MY UNRESERVED APOLOGY?
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Reply #18 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 3:40pm
 
Grendel wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:23am:
Bwian's idea of an UNRESERVED APOLOGY.... Cheesy Grin Cheesy

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 12:37am:
OK, an unreserved apology.  I apologise, Grendel.  You have shown that you are not a racist.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, although I find it interesting that you are today posting in a thread "racism is a right" without attacking racism, yet in 2008, you posted in a thread "racism is wrong" attacking racism.   So, have you changed your mind about racism?

Now, how about the Xenophobia and Islamophobia?    Roll Eyes

Still a lying decitful hypocrite...
First that is not UNRESERVED bwian in fact it is hardly an apology at all.
You were wrong and are still a liar and continue to lie and  libel me on this site.  You are a dishonest hypocrite bwian.

Your postings on Racism is Right 99% of your posts are simply yawns bwian, are you a RACIST?  My post to you simply say you will not win the debate using those tactics...  so no more lies eh...  Aussie accuses me of dragging this on and on and on....  well I've been putting up with this crap for 2 decades...  YOU NEED TO MAN UP BWIAN.

I've proved I am no racist, xenophobe or Islamophobe.

WHERE IS MY UNRESERVED APOLOGY?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor Geoff, how long have you suffered ingratitude?   Tsk, tsk.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #19 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 5:22pm
 
How long have you been a lying worthless hypocrite bwian?


Bwian you broke your worthless word buddy... you have no credibility.


So bwian you've reneged on your promise hey...  how unusual for you...  well bwian you owe me an
unreserved
apology as originally promised...  and I will keep holding you to it until I get one...

WHERE IS MY UNRESERVED APOLOGY BWIAN...
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Reply #20 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 5:36pm
 
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Still shouting your ad hominems even after I have apologised, Geoff?  Tsk, tsk, you really do need to do something about your ingratitude.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 10:12pm
 
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. 
Still not shouting just waving and reminding you of your dishonesty bwian is not ad hom....
Tsk, tsk, you really do need to do something about your blatant dishonesty.
Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Look familiar to you does it...  anything you can do bwian I can do better...

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Reply #22 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 12:18am
 
Grendel wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 10:12pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. 
Still not shouting just waving and reminding you of your dishonesty bwian is not ad hom....
Tsk, tsk, you really do need to do something about your blatant dishonesty.
Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Look familiar to you does it...  anything you can do bwian I can do better...



Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor Geoff.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:13am
 
Bwian, if you keep posting crap I have to keep posting the truth in reply...

This is an unreserved apology bwian...

I Brian Ross, unreservedly apologise to Grendel for libeling him on this site by calling him a racist, a xenophobe and an Islamophobe... which he patently is not, nor has he ever been.


there you go bwian...  it isn't hard to post at all is it?
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Reply #24 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 6:45pm
 
Grendel wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 11:13am:
Bwian, if you keep posting crap I have to keep posting the truth in reply...

This is an unreserved apology bwian...

I Brian Ross, unreservedly apologise to Grendel for libeling him on this site by calling him a racist, a xenophobe and an Islamophobe... which he patently is not, nor has he ever been.


there you go bwian...  it isn't hard to post at all is it?


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Poor Geoff,  I have apologised.  I take pity on you that you cannot accept it, Geoff.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #25 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 3:01pm
 
And on and on and on.... 

Bwian...  you need to stop filling these threads with your crap...  just apologise with an UNRESERVED APOLOGY and get it over with...
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Reply #26 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:27am
 
"Londonistan" Author Melanie Phillips speaks more truth...

[quote]In both Europe and America, the problem of Islamist aggression is matched by the inability or refusal of the governing and intellectual classes to acknowledge the nature and scale of this threat to the west.

In Germany, the huge influx of mainly Muslim young men has brought in its wake so much aggression, sexual violence and other social problems that even the Chancellor Angela Merkel, who opened Germany’s doors to these migrants, has acknowledged grave difficulties. Similar problems and more are being experienced in the Netherlands, France, Sweden and elsewhere.

Hardly surprising, then, that a poll by the international think-tank Chatham House found that in eight out of ten countries surveyed, the majority of respondents wanted all further migration from mainly Muslim countries stopped.

Such a view is of course damned in progressive circles as Islamophobic. But then anyone who says there’s anything wrong or dangerous about certain groups of Muslims or certain types of Islamic thinking is said to be Islamophobic.

This is ridiculous. Of course, most Muslims are not aggressive religious fanatics who want to conquer the west. But the overwhelming majority of aggressive religious fanatics who want to conquer the west happen to be Muslim.

It’s not a form of bigotry to try to protect ourselves against that threat. It’s essential to do so. But we can only protect ourselves if we correctly identity the nature of this threat, and specifically its roots in Islamic religious belief.

For sure, many Muslims do not subscribe to this particular interpretation of their religion. But enough do subscribe to make it a desperately serious threat. And it is a legitimate interpretation of Islam. Only one interpretation, sure; but it’s rooted securely in the theology, and has been expressed throughout the centuries in Islam’s colonialist and warlike history.

In Britain, the official class has consistently refused overall to accept this crucial point. It refuses to acknowledge the Islamic bit in Islamic extremism. It prefers to believe instead that it’s a perversion of religion rather than the real thing. As a result, time and again it’s ignored the evidence of religiously-driven, non-violent Islamist aggression against British society.

Around three years ago a plot was exposed known as “Trojan Horse”. This aimed to impose the most extreme version of Islam on some mainstream schools in Birmingham. An inquiry was carried out by the former head of counter-terrorism policing, Peter Clarke. He concluded: “There has been co-ordinated, deliberate and sustained action, carried out by a number of associated individuals, to introduce an intolerant and aggressive Islamic ethos into a few schools in Birmingham.”

Subsequently, Mr Clarke warned that what he had found in Birmingham’s schools was likely to be merely the tip of the iceberg. “There is a huge amount of material which I didn’t put in”, he said. “There were problems elsewhere which I couldn’t evidence sufficiently in the time available.”

The government ignored Mr Clarke’s warning to look elsewhere. His report was bad enough, from the government’s point of view, in provoking the usual uproar about Islamophobia, demonising all Muslims and similar nonsense. The last thing the government wanted was to confront the appalling vista of similar attempts to Islamise British schools going on up and down the country.

But it’s no surprise that this problem has indeed now emerged elsewhere. It’s been reported that the head-teacher of Clarksfield primary school in Oldham, Trish O’Donnell, is the victim of a campaign against her by Muslim parents. A confidential report by Oldham council says she has been subjected to “death threats”, “threats to blow up her car”, “aggressive verbal abuse” and a physical attack. Officials believed that a particular parent-governor and his wife were trying to “intimidate school staff”, “undermine the head teacher” and “secure changes at the school to reflect their interpretation of Islam”. And this head has written that she has “very strong reasons to believe that… a ‘Trojan Horse’ agenda [is] being played out”.

Oldham council has brushed this claim aside and dismissed the suggestion of any conspiracy. Yet two other Oldham schools are reportedly causing concern by hosting a speaker who had previously justified killing British troops and donating to an organisation linked to extremists. A second Oldham head has claimed that a “Trojan Horse playbook” was used to drive him from his post. And last year, it was reported that a number of Muslim schools were still open, despite the fact that official inspections had found they were failing to protect children from extremism or radicalisation and that pupils there were “unsafe”.
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Reply #27 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 8:30am
 
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More disturbing even than this is that elements in the government have tried to suppress evidence of the problem. Peter Clarke has said that parts of Whitehall attempted to “intimidate” him out of undertaking the Birmingham inquiry in the first place. He also accused the government of “betrayal” after it decided to give five alleged Birmingham plot leaders, who are up before an education department disciplinary tribunal, the names and testimonies of witnesses whose confidentiality Clarke had guaranteed. These terrified witnesses are now being intimidated by abuse and threats as the tribunal itself becomes bogged down by legal manoeuvring.

Ever since 9/11, Whitehall has been dominated by those who want to take the path of least resistance over the problem of Islamic extremism. In 2014 Theresa May, now Prime Minister but who was then the Home Secretary, and Michael Gove, the then Education Secretary who commissioned the Clarke inquiry, spectacularly fell out over mutual accusations that the other had failed adequately to combat Islamist extremism. At the heart of that row lay the dominant Whitehall thinking, espoused by Mrs May but strongly opposed by Gove, that the problem was not extremist attitudes but merely extremist violence. Mrs May won that bout.

Since then, government thinking has shifted in the right direction. It now acknowledges that it’s not just violent extremism that’s the problem but non-violent extremism – the attitudes that create hatred and fanaticism and swell the seas in which violence swims.

But it still refuses to acknowledge that non-violent extremism is driven by Islamic religious fanaticism. As a result, the government’s anti-extremism policy is paralysed because it can’t agree what extremism is. There are other signs that Theresa May still doesn’t get it. The inquiry she set up into sharia courts, for example, has been designed merely to tinker with marginal improvements rather than address the fundamental problem of having a parallel legal system inimical to British values.

This refusal to acknowledge the religious driver of Islamist extremism was of course a signature motif of the Obama administration. So it is extremely troubling to read that the new National Security Adviser, General HR McMaster, has reportedly said that the term radical Islamic terrorism is “counter-productive” and even that Islamic terrorists are “unIslamic.”

[highlight]If the people we entrust to protect us against the threat posed by religious fanaticism cannot even bring themselves to agree that it is indeed religious fanaticism, they will not protect us at all but will assist our enemies instead.[/highlight]
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