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"..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.."
Sep 12^th, 2008 at 6:21pm

I'm not sure, is this extremist ??

"The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is!
I would love to be martyred in Al1ah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 54:
Narrated Abu Huraira:

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mozzaok Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 6741 Melbourne Gender:	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #1 - Sep 12^th, 2008 at 7:08pm It is not unusual for cult leaders to pretend they have the same aspirations that they wish to see their members display, at their command.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40789 Gender:	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #2 - Sep 13^th, 2008 at 12:44pm no justifications/explainations/excuses/accusations from our inhouse muslims?
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easel Gold Member Offline Posts: 3120	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #3 - Sep 15^th, 2008 at 11:35am I like the part how Muslims are especially chaste, yet a martyr gets his virgin boys and girls when he goes to heaven.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40789 Gender:	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #4 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 8:09am Still no justifications on this quote form the resident oppressive muslims ??
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #5 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 8:54am Why does it require a justification? Does it appear unjustified in the first place?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40789 Gender:	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.. Reply #6 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 9:37am one of the basics of communicating was to answer a question directly. Do not answer a question with a question or divert. For your benefit, it needs justifying because it is disgusting and encourages extremism. can you answer it now ??
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Reply #7 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:13am

Firstly,

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one of the basics of communicating was to answer a question directly

I'm not here at your beck and call, obligated to answer any ridiculous question you feel like posing. Understand this.

Secondly, if I ask for clarification or qualification of your question, accept it, or don't bother asking me any questions in future, and let me know now, so I can refrain from answering your questions.

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For your benefit, it needs justifying because it is disgusting and encourages extremism.

What's wrong with being encouraged to be courageous in battle? Don't all good leaders of armies do this?

I really can't for the life of me see how it's disgusting, or extreme, unless we subscribe to the belief that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves, this is purely a privilege reserved for Western/Christian states?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40789 Gender:	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #8 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 10:21am hahahha - you have given 3 questions back in answering one !!!!!!! try again Does your indoctrinated superiorism belief MAKE you unable to accept ANY error ??
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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #9 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 11:56am they're called rhetorical questions mate
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jordan484 Gold Member Offline Genuine Aussie Posts: 1115	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #10 - Oct 13^th, 2008 at 11:58am I think sprint knows that, gaybriel, hence his frustrations at the way abu uses them to deflect from answering the questions properly.
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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #11 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 2:20am rhetorical questions are not always deflective- rather used to provoke thought in the person they are directed at
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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #12 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 2:25am easel wrote on Sep 15^th, 2008 at 11:35am: I like the part how Muslims are especially chaste, yet a martyr gets his virgin boys and girls when he goes to heaven. more info on that http://muslimvillage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45869&hl=virgins
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Reply #13 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 2:38am

Riddle me this then batman... if a religion is so anti-"things of the flesh" and temptation and repression of what women can wear etc as they will incite sexual feelings etc... why is their reward 72 virgins?

Do women get 72 virgins too?

BTW... read the first page of the link... waste of time, please provide answers... be concise.

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: "..get martyred, and then get resurrected again.." Reply #14 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 8:52am Quote: Riddle me this then batman... if a religion is so anti-"things of the flesh" Who said it's anti-"things of the flesh"? That sounds like Christianity not Islam, boy wonder.
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