The real reason he exterminated so many Jews was because somewhere within his insane mind, he had Christian belefs. Why otherwise would he focus on the Jews?

Could it be because he was powerful to destroy the jews, but not yet powerful enough to take on the church?

freediver wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 11:08am:


also most insane rulers tend to enjoy killing jews

Are you obsessed with the Nazis or what, FD?

I think Adolf Hitler was a Pagan and he had all sorts of beliefs.

easel wrote on Oct 25^th, 2008 at 3:58pm:


'Real' Nazis? What's a 'real' Nazi? Do they have a special classification now, Easel?

What's an occult/mystic religion?

Classic Liberal wrote on Oct 25^th, 2008 at 11:23am:


The pope absolutely did not sign the concordat to ‘fly under the radar’, he began negotiations with Hitler on the concordat (as Cardinal Pacelli) for Pope Pius XI from 1933. He signed the concordat to ensure the survival of the Catholic Church in Germany and the freedom for all German Catholics to practise the faith.

However Pacelli was not a Nazi sympathiser.

As Dr. Paul O'Shea said in an interview to promote his book, 'A Cross Too Heavy - Eugenio Pacelli, Politics and the Jews of Europe 1917-1943', “[Pius XII] is not the rabid anti-Semite that [John Cornwell (Hitler’s Pope)] paints him to be, he's not the lamb without stain that his hagiographers would have us believe, he is, as most of us are, somewhere in the middle. He was human, he made mistakes, I think that his mistakes were pretty grave, and he needs to be held accountable for that. But we can't make a demon out of him because he wasn't.”

O’Shea argues that Pacelli was not a racial anti-Semite, although, like most Catholics of the time, he was anti-Jewish in that he believed the religion had been superseded. He was no friend of Hitler nor was he a supporter or sympathiser of National Socialism. The fact is Hitler and Pacelli despised each other.

But Pius XII was so abstruse in his condemnation of Jewish persecution (in an effort to protect the Vatican’s neutrality or a backlash against Catholics in Germany and Nazi occupied Europe) that only the most attentive to his addresses could intuit any form of condemnation at all. As O’Shea says of Pius XII’s Christmas address of 1942 where “in the course of several tens of thousands of words, he speaks seven words on what could be interpreted as a condemnation of the Holocaust”.

While O’Shea believes that Pius XII is probably the most defamed world leader of the 20th century, his book tries to answer the question “how did it reach the point that the man who was venerated by millions as the visible head of Christ's church on earth, a saintly man [as many would have us believe], end up being vilified to the point that he was called 'Hitler's Pope'?”.

muso wrote on Oct 25^th, 2008 at 7:38pm:


Do you even know what you are talking about? Psychosis is not the same as being weird or eccentric, they are completely different kettles of fish. Megalomania is not psychosis.

George Bush said that God spoke to him and told him to invade Iraq. If I went to a psychiatrist and said God told me attack a Mosque because Islamic extremists are a very real threat, I would have the cops called on me, taken to hospital and scheduled under the mental health act and be put straight on anti psychotic medication.

Yet, you say Georgie is not psychotic. He might not be, he might just be a sly manipulator.

Liars and narcissists are not necessarily psychotic.

You have no idea what psychosis is. Psychosis is extremely obvious, and someone who was clearly psychotic would not be given authority to rule because they would not be able to present in public. Psychosis is such things as extreme manic episodes of bipolar, schizophrenia and excess drug consumption. Psychosis is generally characterised by excess dopamine in the brain. If these people you claim to be psychotic are, they would be hearing voices, unable to sleep, extremely energetic, rapid speech, flight of ideas etc etc. They would not be able to show any signs of calm or collectiveness.

Don't throw words around when you don't know what they mean.

Weird is not psychosis. Odd is not psychosis. Eccentric is not psychosis. Ambition is not psychosis. Ideology is not psychosis. Lying is not psychosis. Psychosis is psychosis.

tallowood wrote on Oct 25^th, 2008 at 8:06pm:


Hello arsebandit,

I, in the past, received a diagnosis of bipolar type 1. I have experienced psychosis. I have also spent many hours researching mental illness.

I feel I am more than qualified to comment on psychosis.