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What it means to be a Christian.
Oct 6th, 2008 at 8:15am
 
I got this from another forum I use and thought it was funny, its so true too.

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
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Reply #1 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 8:22am
 
Great post Queer.  Does this mean that self professed Christians, Jews, Muslims etc. are often hypocrites?   Smiley

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Reply #2 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 8:30am
 
mantra wrote on Oct 6th, 2008 at 8:22am:
Great post Queer.  Does this mean that self professed Christians, Jews, Muslims etc. are often hypocrites?   Smiley


ALL religious people are hypocrites in some way or another. I tolerate religious people but I truly wish they occupied their brain with something other than fantasy land stories, they are wasting their potential in my opinion.
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Reply #3 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 9:27am
 
Hi queer. Interesting tag line. If socialism is the answer, what is the question? You can start a new thread if you don't want to sidetrack this one.
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Reply #4 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 10:05am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2008 at 9:27am:
Hi queer. Interesting tag line. If socialism is the answer, what is the question? You can start a new thread if you don't want to sidetrack this one.

I don't really want to get into it here but if you want to know more about socialism visit:
http://www.marxist.com/
http://www.marxists.org/
http://www.revleft.com/vb/

for more information about it.

But basically socialism is the answer because capitalism is nothing but exploitation of the proletariat, it serves the minority (the bourgeois) while the majority (the proletariat) make the minority rich, socialism serves the majority, the working class.
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Reply #5 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 10:08am
 
Wow, so you really are a communist.

I wanted to know what the question is, not what the answer is. It seems like it's an answer in need of a question.
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Reply #6 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 10:15am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2008 at 10:08am:
Wow, so you really are a communist.

I wanted to know what the question is, not what the answer is. It seems like it's an answer in need of a question.

The question is "does capitalism really serve the majority?" the answer to that is no, and if the answer is no then what does? the answer to that is socialism!
Socialism is the next logical step after capitalism, as capitalism is not going to last forever (this knowledge can be attained via dialectics) then its only logical that socialism is the next step.
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Reply #7 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 10:21am
 
OK I started a new thread as I think this might go on for a bit. Can you explain how dialectics works in this other thread please?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1223252366
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Reply #8 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 6:15pm
 
queer wrote on Oct 6th, 2008 at 8:15am:
I got this from another forum I use and thought it was funny, its so true too.

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."


3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.


I'm a Christian.

10. My girlfiend is an atheist, denies my god every day somehow i survive Tongue

9. Pope Benedict on evolution:
According to the widely accepted scientific account, the universe erupted 15 billion years ago in an explosion called the 'Big Bang' and has been expanding and cooling ever since. Later there gradually emerged the conditions necessary for the formation of atoms, still later the condensation of galaxies and stars, and about 10 billion years later the formation of planets. In our own solar system and on earth (formed about 4.5 billion years ago), the conditions have been favorable to the emergence of life. While there is little consensus among scientists about how the origin of this first microscopic life is to be explained, there is general agreement among them that the first organism dwelt on this planet about 3.5 - 4 billion years ago. Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of evolution. - he does not contradict it Smiley

8. triune god is still one god. and i have never laughed at a polytheist.

i have to go but i will finish later.
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Reply #9 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 6:55pm
 
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8. triune god is still one god. and i have never laughed at a polytheist.


Yeh like all the thousands of Hindu deities are all manifestations of the one deity as well.

Trinitarianism is polytheism, plain and simple.

Too bad the Trinitarians annihilated and eradicated all the Arians.
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Reply #10 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 7:13pm
 
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10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.


This point reminded me of the following quote-

"We are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Robert
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Reply #11 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 7:41pm
 
To me, being a chrisitan does not mean those things.

It means, there is a reason for "all this".
We are not just a fluke.

Just for fun, I'll go through your 10.

10/ No I don't.

9/ No I don't. I disagree. There are a few ways of looking at genesis.

8/ No I don't. I actively encourage and support other beliefs to post here.

7/ allah did nothing in the koran. allah according to muslims is the biblical God anyway.
   
6/ a) no I don't
6 b) yes I do.

5/ No I dont. Is this one essentially a copy of #9 ?

4/ Absolutely not. The way I read it, we will be judged the most testingly.

3/ Course not. Tongues is the last of the gifts. It impresses me not at all. Did you know, many scientists are christians ??

2/  If one prayer works, it is proof. people often pray for the wrong stuff anyway.

1/ I like athiests, prefer them to agnostics. few christians have read their own bible.
One of the great failings of churches.
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Reply #12 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 9:24pm
 
queer wrote on Oct 6th, 2008 at 10:05am:
[quote] But basically socialism is the answer because capitalism is nothing but exploitation of the proletariat, it serves the minority (the bourgeois) while the majority (the proletariat) make the minority rich, socialism serves the majority, the working class.


Gawd, what an old-fashioned fudddy-duddy you are.

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"We are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F. Robert


Now there's a quotable quote.


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Reply #14 - Oct 6th, 2008 at 10:32pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 6th, 2008 at 9:24pm:
queer wrote on Oct 6th, 2008 at 10:05am:
[quote] But basically socialism is the answer because capitalism is nothing but exploitation of the proletariat, it serves the minority (the bourgeois) while the majority (the proletariat) make the minority rich, socialism serves the majority, the working class.


Gawd, what an old-fashioned fudddy-duddy you are.



Queer has been reading straight from his Sociology text again..

Marx and all those dudes.



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