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Reply #15 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 9:48am
 
A male doesn't have to be a homosexual to have sex with another man.  Many blokes are raped in prison and the others who make a habit of it do it purely as a physical release. 

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Reply #16 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 10:05am
 
lol
Then homosexuality is just a behaviour and not genetic????  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #17 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 10:23am
 
Wrong again Grendel. Roll Eyes

Many of those males in prison - if they had the choice, would rather have sex with a female.

Homosexuals don't and never will want to have sex with females. 

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Reply #18 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 10:34am
 
Actually I have missed the point. 

Maybe we could divide it into two categories - homosexual behaviour under duress and genetic homosexuality?  Smiley
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Reply #19 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 10:35am
 
So homosexuality isn't about men having sex with men?

what about those men who were previously hetero that after prison choose to just have sex with men?

What abot bisexuals?

Gee life just isn't fair when it becomes complicated is it...
Oh almost missed this...  not all men in prison have sex with men under "duress" mantra... some do it of their own free will.  it is a choice.
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Reply #20 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 10:46am
 
Rape in prison is not about sex. It's about power. Just as hetero rape is not an expression of heterosexuality.

In high school biology we studied a list of various forms of hermaphrodity. One example is someone who is chromosomally one sex (ie XY vs XX), but because of hormone exposure or some other malfunction is physically the opposite sex. I think that was a case study of a person who felt trapped in the wrong body.

Of course, that sort of hermaphrodity has nothing to do with homosexuality.
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Reply #21 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 10:55am
 
I wasn't talking about rape in prison...   Grin

how naive some people are.
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Reply #22 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 11:03am
 
Well I don't pretend to understand it, but a lot of the biggest, toughest guys in our jails, do stand over others for oral sex, but do not practice anal sex.

They rationalise the oral sex as not being gay, because they can close their eyes and think of some girl of their fantasies, and even those who go the extra mile always do so as the "father", rather than the "mother".

Now a gay friend who got stuck in jail for drugs always said that half of them were closet queens, but they would slit your throat if you ever suggested it.

The other half, he thought had just accepted that twenty years of masturbation deserves to be broken up with a few BJ's, even if it is with a guy, as Grendel said, they just want to get their rocks off.

It would be interesting to see what a psychologist would make of their behaviour, and motivations, but how he would get the truth would be problematic.
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Reply #23 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 2:46pm
 
Grendel wrote on Oct 27th, 2008 at 10:35am:
So homosexuality isn't about men having sex with men?

what about those men who were previously hetero that after prison choose to just have sex with men?

What abot bisexuals?

Gee life just isn't fair when it becomes complicated is it...
Oh almost missed this...  not all men in prison have sex with men under "duress" mantra... some do it of their own free will.  it is a choice.


Oh gee - maybe it's a question of an overriding need to ejaculate in a place where there is no privacy, and oh hell - maybe they like it when they ejaculate by whatever means and their hypothalamus neuroendocrine neurons in the medial preoptic and arcuate nuclei assign it as a pleasurable sensation which they actively seek out from then on, and Bob's your auntie.

Maybe rapists, murderers and other such scum have a stronger stomach than most of us and the pleasure centre overrides the vomit centre.  
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Reply #24 - Oct 27th, 2008 at 3:00pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Oct 15th, 2008 at 2:22pm:
I know some people can close their eyes, and fantasise about who they would like to be with, and perform sex with someone they do not really find attractive, but they are just deceiving themselves, and whoever they are with, if they do that.


There's a term for that. It's called marriage.
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