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Oct 10^th, 2008 at 2:06pm

from the militant islamics thread:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1223522110/40#40

"THE RIGHT TO JUDGE"
"It is not the function of Islam to compromise with the concepts of Jahiliyya which are current in the world **or to co-exist** in the same land together with a jahili system........"
by SAYYID QUTB
http://www.islamworld.net/justice.html

What are your views on this?

i.e. ISLAMIC doctrine mandates intolerance of the Jahiliyya [un-ISLAMIC] lifestyle [even within non-muslim countries].

"....Jahiliyya is a result of the lack of Sharia law, without which Islam cannot exist;"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyya#Jahiliyya_in_contemporary_society

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: coexistence Reply #1 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 2:29pm Jahiliya is pre-islamic, not un-islamic.
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Reply #2 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 10:50pm

Sayyid Qutb (May God have mercy on him) was writing about Egyptian society, not Western societies. He is one of the most misquoted and slandered scholars of Islam today.

Jahiliyyah = ignorance. Specifically it refers to the pre-Islamic ignorance of Arabia. Sayyid Qutb used the word to refer to the way Egyptian (and other Muslim countries) society had reverted back partially to their pre-Islamic state, and therefore were in need of revival.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40667 Gender:	Re: coexistence Reply #3 - Oct 10^th, 2008 at 11:03pm abu - just say whether you agree or disagree with him.
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: coexistence Reply #4 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 7:48am sprint, the question was "What are your views on this?", not "do you agree or diagree with him". If you'd like to ask that question, I suggest you place one of these "?" at the terminating point of your sentence and remove the imperative "just say" from the beginning.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40667 Gender:	Re: coexistence Reply #5 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 10:24am How terribly insensitive of me to phrase my question in such a manner gramatically to offend you. Quite correct of you to castigate me and not answer my query. I shall learn form this and be a better man.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40667 Gender:	Re: coexistence Reply #6 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 10:35am seems we cant coexist. I cant even ask a question proper.
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Re: coexistence
Reply #7 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 6:25pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 11^th, 2008 at 10:35am:

seems we cant coexist.

I cant even ask a question proper.

Wow.. That's you saying that.. Not Islam..

Typical of the Western Imperialist Christian mindset to think that because you can't colonize and force your own ideology, values and religion onto a people in another land then subjugate them and exploit their land and resources as you did to Africa, The Americas, Australia etc that you are unable to coexist. Perhaps if you actually respected groups, races, religions, cultures other than your own and instead just had mutually beneficial relationships you wouldn't need to do all that and could have fruitful diplomacy, trade and commerce that way.

Respect goes a long way..

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: coexistence Reply #8 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 6:31pm Malik Shakur wrote on Oct 11^th, 2008 at 6:25pm: [quote]Respect goes a long way.. Gotta be earned first... Looong way to go.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40667 Gender:	Re: coexistence Reply #9 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 6:43pm malik - this is coming from the one who threatens legal action against me and others to stop us asking questions ?? go and take a flying jump at yourself found any 7 year olds to marry there ?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: coexistence Reply #10 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 6:50pm six
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Reply #11 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 6:58pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 11^th, 2008 at 6:43pm:

malik - this is coming from the one who threatens legal action against me and others to stop us asking questions ??
go and take a flying jump at yourself

found any 7 year olds to marry there ?

Sprint you were never threatened with legal action, the forums were for allowing your racist behavior to continue unchecked and for neglecting their duty of care for other members on the forum.

Furthermore it was not for asking questions.. It was for racism and religious intolerance through your constant unhealthy and hateful obsession with trolling on the site about Islam and no one could deny that..

The comment about the 7 year olds is your last warning mate. If it happens again you can post elsewhere and not on the Islamic forums. It wont be tolerated here.

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Reply #12 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 7:53pm

Go easy on sprint Malik.He's still getting over the molestation he recieved from his priest when he was 7.

Poor bugger...little did he truly understand what it meant when his priest, the 'father' asked him into his cubicle for confession.

Ironic hey...the religon which has produced the most peadaphiles from its clergy is Christianity...and I suspect that given Sprint's evident mental problems...perhaps he was much more 'closer' to his priest then he would of liked.

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Reply #13 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 8:01pm

Lestat wrote on Oct 11^th, 2008 at 7:53pm:

Go easy on sprint Malik.He's still getting over the molestation he recieved from his priest when he was 7.

Poor bugger...little did he truly understand what it meant when his priest, the 'father' asked him into his cubicle for confession.

Ironic hey...the religon which has produced the most peadaphiles from its clergy is Christianity...and I suspect that given Sprint's evident mental problems...perhaps he was much more 'closer' to his priest then he would of liked.

would have liked...

('ere we go....)

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40667 Gender:	Re: coexistence Reply #14 - Oct 11^th, 2008 at 8:10pm malik - does lestat get a similar warning ?
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