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Re: different rules for different people
Reply #15 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 2:29pm

Grendel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 2:12pm:

rotflmao

I was referrring to fd's comment about today actually skip. You've always had context problems.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1223989513/4#4

yes... much worse IMO than calling someone a goober or a moron.

Yes I'm back after being banned... thanks people seems FD has seen the error of his ways.

OH DEAR YOU CAN LEAVE THAT ONE OUT SKIP...
NOT PERSONAL CRITICISM AT ALL

Oh BTW fd.
moron
–noun 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.

I think when I use it the term is completely appropriate.

LOL, BETTER BAN THAT DICTIONARY EH SKIPPY Grin

AND THAT ONE...

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1223174305/56#56

As for calling a moron a moron fd... sorry but I call a spade a spade... who else would crap on about the media

AND THAT ONE...

AS FOR THE 3 WITH "IDIOT" IN THEM PUHLEASE... GET A LIFE.

YOU ARE A TRY-HARD SKIPPY, NO DENYING THAT.

here's a couple more for you Skip and I won't even bother looking at your crap.

All are personal criticism.
Most of them just out of one topic.

lestat

THe prophet did not have a brother you dim wit.

Now I understand that with your limited capabilities all your capable of is rather vulgar abuse, with limited wit I might add.

It isn't surprising that one with your limited capabilities is not able to recognise sarcasm.

THe question must be asked...what kind of a Christian are you.....not a good one obviously

lol....well how bout you start practising what you preach. Hypocrite.

Simple minds are amused by simple things.....

malik

Now you can consider this post as a warning for you Sprint as it seems you have NOT changed from your old bigoted ways

exotic cheese

nope my mistake you and sprinty are typical idiot white Australians.

abu

So forgive some for assuming you sound just a little Nazi-like (and therefore probably a sympathiser with white supremacists).

NOT ONLY PERSONAL CRITICISM AND INSULTING BUT LIBELOUS TO BOOT.

Yes, all that above most definitely is personal and perpetrators should be warned and conditionally banned.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49003 At my desk.	Re: different rules for different people Reply #16 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 2:44pm Yes Grendel, I have given a few warnings to other members lately. For some reason it seems to be starting again since you got stuck into it. I hope you appreciate that I will give them as much slack as I did for you.
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boxingkangaroo Full Member Offline Posts: 129	Re: different rules for different people Reply #17 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:04pm Yes grendel makes some good points there. Mantra. IQ was not banned because of the OceanZ he was banned because he made nasty stalking threats toward FD - so please be correct about this. Yes he should have been banned for all those nasty names he called you .
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skippy

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Re: different rules for different people
Reply #18 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:17pm

tallowood wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 2:29pm:

Grendel wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 2:12pm:

rotflmao

I was referrring to fd's comment about today actually skip. You've always had context problems.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1223989513/4#4

yes... much worse IMO than calling someone a goober or a moron.

Yes I'm back after being banned... thanks people seems FD has seen the error of his ways.

OH DEAR YOU CAN LEAVE THAT ONE OUT SKIP...
NOT PERSONAL CRITICISM AT ALL

Oh BTW fd.
moron
–noun 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.

I think when I use it the term is completely appropriate.

LOL, BETTER BAN THAT DICTIONARY EH SKIPPY Grin

AND THAT ONE...

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1223174305/56#56

As for calling a moron a moron fd... sorry but I call a spade a spade... who else would crap on about the media

AND THAT ONE...

AS FOR THE 3 WITH "IDIOT" IN THEM PUHLEASE... GET A LIFE.

YOU ARE A TRY-HARD SKIPPY, NO DENYING THAT.

here's a couple more for you Skip and I won't even bother looking at your crap.

All are personal criticism.
Most of them just out of one topic.

lestat

THe prophet did not have a brother you dim wit.

Now I understand that with your limited capabilities all your capable of is rather vulgar abuse, with limited wit I might add.

It isn't surprising that one with your limited capabilities is not able to recognise sarcasm.

THe question must be asked...what kind of a Christian are you.....not a good one obviously

lol....well how bout you start practising what you preach. Hypocrite.

Simple minds are amused by simple things.....

malik

Now you can consider this post as a warning for you Sprint as it seems you have NOT changed from your old bigoted ways

exotic cheese

nope my mistake you and sprinty are typical idiot white Australians.

abu

So forgive some for assuming you sound just a little Nazi-like (and therefore probably a sympathiser with white supremacists).

NOT ONLY PERSONAL CRITICISM AND INSULTING BUT LIBELOUS TO BOOT.

Yes, all that above most definitely is personal and perpetrators should be warned and conditionally banned.

Thanks for trying to explain yourself boof, but I didn't post all of those quotes, fd did, you still seem confused.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: different rules for different people Reply #19 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:25pm Ah but most of the stuff I posted and have seen have absolutely nothing to do with me fd. lets not have any self fulfilling prophecies happening here eh. Or scape-goating.
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Reply #20 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:27pm

damn you are right skip... sorry... fd is a try-hard.

not so much confused, just really busy at work.

Told you he has issues with me. Grin

Ban me or not I don't really give a fig.

Just thought I'd liven the place up a bit it's been dead for so long.

The hypocrisy here is you already have different rules for different people.

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boxingkangaroo Full Member Offline Posts: 129	Re: different rules for different people Reply #21 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:44pm you should stay grendel..we all have a run in with FD at some point.. its obvious you have friends here
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49003 At my desk.	Re: different rules for different people Reply #22 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:54pm Grendel is that suppoed to be an excuse? Or are you trying to say you still don't understand the rules?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: different rules for different people Reply #23 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 3:54pm Thanks kate
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Reply #24 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 4:47pm

Well I did not see anything there that would bother me, I let slip with a few derogatory terms, occasionally, but I try to keep them general, rather than specifically personal, if I can.

I personally feel it is the frequency of Beo's outbursts, more than their actual content, that is disturbing for some, I certainly do not mind being called an idiot by Beo, I have directed a few jabs his way in my time, and he has only countered aggressively when I threw the hypocrite word in on occasion(he doesn't like that one), but mostly I find his views interesting, if at times bizarre.

I really am not impressed by people who go bitching and moaning over trivialities, as they say, build a bridge and get over it, we are all anonymous keyboard tappers at the end of the day.

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Reply #25 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 5:15pm

No excuse.
No apology.
fd.
You tend to be very selective to whom you apply the rules to.

I've pointed that out.

I've shown others you seem to have no problem with or is it just that Muslims are exempt. Do you think it not libelous to call someone a nazi or white-supremacist?

As for the other fairly teepid banter I agree with Mozz... I don't get up in arms about his insults, nor skips, nor amadds etc, etc, etc...

I understand your "fear" for your site... but as Mozz says it's probably more my frequency than anything else. I participate fd... that means more people also participate. Usually I just return fire. You seem to allow certain others to get away with stuff just because they are not as concise in their criticism. I don't see the point in wasting my time libelling people in sentences. I just call 'em stupid. Or something equally appropriate.

You obviously don't want this here yet you allow others to be just as insulting and arrogant and worse. Perhaps they are too subtle for you or perhaps your bias creates a blindspot. You allow others to break the rules regularly. I can see that strict adherance would be almost impossible to police and that it would also be detrimental to participation if you went all opinion Nazi on everyone.

Like Mozz says we are all anon and there's really no one here I personally dislike etc.

Not sure what the answer is... but if you ban me that might make you happy and at least my jibes will have been stopped. Of course the rest of the stuff will remain.

I know you don't want flame wars but as I see it the site is far from that situation at present.

Your site... your call

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Reply #26 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 5:22pm

Personally FD, I don't think you're ever going to find a happy medium. Trying to please too many people too much of the time will only backfire on you.
There's nothing worse than a sterile society, and a sterile chatroom comes a close second.

There will always be different people come and go, and tempers will get frayed from time to time...but it's all part of the fun isn't it?
As well, it takes a bit of time to get to know different posters and the language that they use.
To me, if BO calls me a hypocrite and a moron, then I revel in it ..I find it funny (becauase he is one himself Grin

). However, if somebody like Mantra used the same terminology, I would take it in an entirely different context.
That being said, I've seen BO and RSF on Cracker scaring off new posters because they immediately go for the throat. It also took me a little time to realise that they were the village idiots.

Before Cracker was destroyed by it's operators, the politics room was in a schemozzle because of tit-for-tat complaints and deletions. The deletions themselves were at least as destructive, or more destructive than what people were complaining about in the first place.
I probably won't bother posting in weasel's room again because he has stated to me in no uncertain terms that, "I'm the king of the mountain, and you must be subservient to me".
The only response that I could be bothered giving to this attitude atm is, "f@#k off weasel"... If I speak from the heart that is.
The question is, do you want a board where people speak their mind (at the time of posting) or do you want a sterilised chatroom..like nazis....or religious people?
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Reply #27 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 5:51pm

Amadd wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 5:22pm:

I probably won't bother posting in weasel's room again because he has stated to me in no uncertain terms that, "I'm the king of the mountain, and you must be subservient to me".
The only response that I could be bothered giving to this attitude atm is, "f@#k off weasel"... If I speak from the heart that is.

You're the one who refuses to discuss with anyone a topic unless they have read the exact same book as you. If I read book A on poultry and you read book B on poultry, would I refuse to discuss poultry with you because you haven't studied the exact same book as me?

Of course not, I would never be so arrogant or hypocritical.

Remember, you take Zeitgeist as an informative text type, not a film. I would never try and discuss a movie plot in depth of something like say, Finding Nemo, without having seen the film.

However if the movie was a retelling of a novel I which I have read, I would have no issue trying to compare similarities.

If I saw a doco on Crocodiles in Far North Queensland narrated by David Attenborough, and you saw one on the exact same topic put out by National Geographic, I would never say no I won't discuss (perceived) facts with you because you have not seen the exact same film as me.

The only reason I can see you behaving like this is if you wanted to discuss cinematography, but you clearly don't having posted in the Fringe forum.

Have a nice day Amadd. Hope you grow up soon.

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: different rules for different people Reply #28 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 6:01pm To give an analogy, I see it like this: Q: Did you see the Obama vs. McCain debate yesterday? A. No, but my friend saw it and he said that Obama won. If I had watched the debate, then how on earth could I ever discuss the points of the debate that I wish to discuss with you? A. I couldn't.
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Reply #29 - Oct 15^th, 2008 at 6:16pm

Amadd wrote on Oct 15^th, 2008 at 6:01pm:

To give an analogy, I see it like this:

Q: Did you see the Obama vs. McCain debate yesterday?
A. No, but my friend saw it and he said that Obama won.

If I had watched the debate, then how on earth could I ever discuss the points of the debate that I wish to discuss with you?

A. I couldn't.

Amadd, you are wrong and dim witted. You cannot compare views of alternative history, which are available from many sources, to a political debate which is only a one of a kind occurrence. Your analogy is flawed.

I have heard the Jesus astrology myth years before Zeitgeist ever came out. There is no new, ground breaking information contained in it, just things that are new to you.

Do you understand yet? Or is this too much for you?

There is absolutely no comparison between a one of a kind event such as a political debate, a fight, a wedding and hearing it relayed to you later and not being there, than to learning about certain theories which are nearly identical from different sources.

Is it sinking in yet just how much of a wank you are?

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