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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5952	are "holy" books media? Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:09am Are The Analects, Bhagavad Gita, Bible, Book of Dead, Book of History, Book of Rites, Book of Songs, Des Kapital, I Ching, Koran, MKCB, Playboy, Spring and Autumn Annals, Tao-te-ching, Upanishads and Vedas media? PS: If I've missed any other books that are "holy" please add them in this thread.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5952	Re: are "holy" books media? Reply #1 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:36am Just remembered "Communist Manifesto". I think it is "holy" for some as well. So consider it added up to the list above.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: are "holy" books media? Reply #2 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:39am Well they'd be part of the PRINT media... or medium... so what point are you driving at?
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Re: are "holy" books media?
Reply #3 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:55am

Grendel wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:39am:

Well they'd be part of the PRINT media... or medium... so what point are you driving at?

Thank you for your answer.
At the moment I'm not driving to any point, just trying to clarify if books in the list above are media because in some other thread I was accused of been insulting when I pointed out that one of the books in the list, namely Koran, is media.
If I understood you correctly you think that they are, which is coincides with how I see it too.
Would like to hear from other members.

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Reply #4 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:11am

Don't see how they can argue differently.

medium s or media pl is a mode of communication.

me·di·a1 /ˈmidiə/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[mee-dee-uh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a pl. of medium.
2. (usually used with a plural verb) the means of communication, as radio and television, newspapers, and magazines, that reach or influence people widely: The media are covering the speech tonight

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Reply #5 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:39am

tallowood wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:36am:

Just remembered "Communist Manifesto". I think it is "holy" for some as well. So consider it added up to the list above.

We commie's don't have "holy" books so no, the communist manifesto isn't "holy". Neither is Das Kapital BTW.
communism isn't a religion and its users are materialist (atheist) in general, some are religious but the majority of commie's are materialists.

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Reply #6 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:41am

tallowood wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:55am:

Grendel wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:39am:

Well they'd be part of the PRINT media... or medium... so what point are you driving at?

Thank you for your answer.
At the moment I'm not driving to any point, just trying to clarify if books in the list above are media because in some other thread I was accused of been insulting when I pointed out that one of the books in the list, namely Koran, is media.
If I understood you correctly you think that they are, which is coincides with how I see it too.
Would like to hear from other members.

Was it explained how you were expected to refer to it? I accept technically that they are print media but some may consider them the devine word. I personally, in most cases, consider them interesting inclusions to the fiction section of my book case.

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Reply #7 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 10:20am

queer wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:39am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:36am:

Just remembered "Communist Manifesto". I think it is "holy" for some as well. So consider it added up to the list above.

We commie's don't have "holy" books so no, the communist manifesto isn't "holy". Neither is Das Kapital BTW.
communism isn't a religion and its users are materialist (atheist) in general, some are religious but the majority of commie's are materialists.

I did put the word holy in comas so as long as "Communist Manifesto", "MCCB" and "Das Kapital" are authoritative media they are "holy".

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Reply #8 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 10:25am

locutius wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:41am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:55am:

Grendel wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:39am:

Well they'd be part of the PRINT media... or medium... so what point are you driving at?

Thank you for your answer.
At the moment I'm not driving to any point, just trying to clarify if books in the list above are media because in some other thread I was accused of been insulting when I pointed out that one of the books in the list, namely Koran, is media.
If I understood you correctly you think that they are, which is coincides with how I see it too.
Would like to hear from other members.

Was it explained how you were expected to refer to it? I accept technically that they are print media but some may consider them the devine word. I personally, in most cases, consider them interesting inclusions to the fiction section of my book case.

No it was not explained. Word is media too though may be not always printed or claimed to be unprintable.

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Reply #9 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 11:13am

tallowood wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 10:20am:

queer wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 9:39am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 8:36am:

Just remembered "Communist Manifesto". I think it is "holy" for some as well. So consider it added up to the list above.

We commie's don't have "holy" books so no, the communist manifesto isn't "holy". Neither is Das Kapital BTW.
communism isn't a religion and its users are materialist (atheist) in general, some are religious but the majority of commie's are materialists.

I did put the word holy in comas so as long as "Communist Manifesto", "MCCB" and "Das Kapital" are authoritative media they are "holy".

Why include communist texts in a thread in the spirituality forum? seems weird to me cause communism is materialist.

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Reply #10 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 12:44pm

Queer wrote

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We commie's don't have "holy" books so no, the communist manifesto isn't "holy". Neither is Das Kapital BTW.
communism isn't a religion and its users are materialist (atheist) in general, some are religious but the majority of commie's are materialists

I would argue that Mao's "Little Red Book" is was waved about and considered in the same vein and given the same status as holy scripture.

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Reply #11 - Oct 16^th, 2008 at 1:36pm

locutius wrote on Oct 16^th, 2008 at 12:44pm:

Queer wrote

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We commie's don't have "holy" books so no, the communist manifesto isn't "holy". Neither is Das Kapital BTW.
communism isn't a religion and its users are materialist (atheist) in general, some are religious but the majority of commie's are materialists

I would argue that Mao's "Little Red Book" is was waved about and considered in the same vein and given the same status as holy scripture.

I forgot about that one. Consider it to be added to the list.

I'm not sure if materialists and atheists are the same but if they are then judging by results of discussion in http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1223116473 them and their "holy" books do belong in spiritual thread.

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