This was the only posting I found, I am sure there are more.


From Lestat.

"Matthew 10:34 - "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"

Luke 22: 36-37 "Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

"For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end."

Luke 11:23 "He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth."

Abu - ah, I would not have seen it that way from the muslim POV.
Thanks.

In context, i read these quotes as being spiritual not defensive.

that one was to fulfill a prophecy from the OT.
It runs counter to his other instructions, and is shown by the quotes either side.
Really, whatever way, a minor one.
Feel free to ask about any that seem ......... untoward.

As likely as not, I may be undecided on them too.

Abu - it's fine for you to be as disrespectful as you wish here.

yes, it seems a trite "functional", doesn't it ?
Jesus often quoted from the OT. From his timeline, that was his immediate past.
Assuming he WAS the Messiah ( a big call), he was to fulfill those prophecies.
In a way, he led his whole life as was prescribed by the OT.


"Bring peace but a sword...."

"Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God."
Ephesians 6:17
The word of God is the Bible.
Jesus was bringing the Bible to the world. When the right quote is given to someone, it slices them in two.  When the right quote is given to me, it is VERY decisive.
This one supports that analogy.

"For the word of God is living and active.
Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight.
Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account."

Hebrews 4:12,13

When I became a christian, my wife was not a christian.
It made our house "not at peace". Even though she admitted I had became a better person, she still divorced me.

There was an amazing thing happen one night. 
We were in bed, she had fallen asleep as I read to her from the bible.
She was sound asleep, a husband knows these things.
I kept reading, just a bit more quietly.
Toward the end, I read out the name "Jesus", she immediately sat uprght and said loudly aggressively and in a deep gruff voice "What !!!!".
Then she lay back down again, still asleep !!!

hhmm, I never looked at it that way.
It sort of not like that. The marriage was already on the way out.
I had been profoundly changed in a matter of a few minutes and I was no longer who I used to be.
I did not like who I used to be.  Neither did my soon-to-be exwife.

But beoming a christian certainly caused some "differences of opinin" in the house !!

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 8:07am:






sprint, good story, regards your ex.

Everyone can clearly today see this material world, but many have no perception of the co-existent spirit world.

And many have no perception that we [i.e. our earthen bodies] are the 'hosts' of those spirits which we 'allow' / 'welcome'.

Speaking this, reminds me of that name attributed to God, throught the OT, the 'LORD of hosts'.
....search in KJV bible results in 245 hits.


Hebrews 12:9
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?


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Regards Biblical quotes muslims dislike, i would suggest they dislike and reject the whole Bible, because the Bible reveals God's plan for the redemption of mankind, and Jesus part in that plan.



Psalms 2:1
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2  The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3  Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4  He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5  Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6  Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8  Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9  Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
10  Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11  Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12  Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Matthew 3:17
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.




Muslims claim Jesus was merely a man, and a muslim prophet.

The muslim Jesus, and the New Testament Jesus bear no similarity.

ISLAM teaches that,
...Jesus is NOT a Jewish messiah [even though ??? the Koran itself refers to the Jesus as 'Christ Jesus', AND as 'Messiah, Jesus'],
...there is NO atonement [spirit redemption] through Jesus blood,
...Jesus is NOT the son of God,
...Jesus did NOT die on a cross,
...Jesus was NOT crucified,
...Jesus was NOT resurrected by Allah / God,
...Jesus was whisked away to heaven by Allah [without ever dying].


Muslims....

".........how they are deluded away from the Truth!"
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