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If Muslims "hate" the West why stay?
Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:37pm

I hear nothing but; victimhood, excuses and redirection of blame from the muslims here.

If Muslims are so unhappy living in the West that they have to create enclaves etc, etc, etc... why do they stay?

These intelligent people that have all the answers and superior manners and morals why do they stay in a country full of infidels?

Why soil themselves living amongst the kaffir?

I've seen it written... that a Muslim is like a pure clear crystal stream compared to the sewage that is the Kaffir...

Surely it would be better for them and their country of origin or fellow countrymen if they returned to their origins and created the of zenith of civilisation they seem to think only they are capable of creating.

Why don't they go "home' and create that Caliphate they talk about and await the return of the mahdi.... etc, etc, etc

If they give the rest of us any problems in the mean time we can do what the Chinese did... build a big wall and make it difficult for them to enter countries outside the caliphate. Expansionism and terrorism solved.

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Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay?
Reply #1 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:45pm

The answer, behind all the self-righteous bluster, is money.
Money. Booty. The good life, the easy life. Muslims are staying because the life is better. And life is better mostly because ther fellow muslims are not in charge.
For most muslims their religion is as important as for most Anglicans.

The caliphate and mahdi bullshitters are hopeless. Dangerous probably because they are hopeless.
Most muslims are here because they know in their bonees that it is hopeless in thee 'old country'.

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Lestat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1403	Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay? Reply #2 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:47pm I was born here...where would I go?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay? Reply #3 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:50pm Well if you consider yourself Australian then stay... if not and you practice another countries culture then you are more than welcome to go where your lifestyle is the norm.
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Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay?
Reply #4 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:55pm

Grendel wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:50pm:

Well if you consider yourself Australian then stay... if not and you practice another countries culture then you are more than welcome to go where your lifestyle is the norm.

And what culture exactly would you like me to practise...and what exactly does 'practising' this culture actually involve.

What would I have to do to make you satisfied that I am a true dinky di aussie?

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Reply #5 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:04pm

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I was born here...where would I go?

Well if you are of the mind that a society needs Sharia law to be a truly good society, then any country that practices sharia is where you should go.

To thine self be true.

I don't care how many young muslims are popped out, we will never have sharia in australia, it is not compatible with "OUR" culture.

If you don't care about sharia, and do not wish to see it implemented in our country, then stay here.

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OOPS!!! My Karma, ran over your Dogma!

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Reply #6 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:10pm

been there explained that lestat suggest you look it up in the Multiculti forum.

So how long have you been here not to be able to identify what an Australian is or what their lifestyle is like?

The fact you know English and understand at least a modicum of the Australian vernacular is a start. The rest of your behaviour here towards fellow Australians leaves much to be desired though

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay? Reply #7 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:11pm Lestat wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:47pm: I was born here...where would I go? Where do you belong??
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Reply #8 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:12pm

Lestat wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:55pm:

Grendel wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 10:50pm:

Well if you consider yourself Australian then stay... if not and you practice another countries culture then you are more than welcome to go where your lifestyle is the norm.

And what culture exactly would you like me to practise...and what exactly does 'practising' this culture actually involve.

What would I have to do to make you satisfied that I am a true dinky di aussie?

Volunteer for the army and ask to be deployed in Afghanistan.

Demonsstrate civilisational commitment, in other words.

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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5614	Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay? Reply #9 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:19pm Many of the first European settlers in Australia despised and even hated original inhabitants of the continent and their cultures but they stayed. Why?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay? Reply #10 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:30pm APPLES AND ORANGES TALLOWOOD TSK, TSK, TSK... LOL the first settlers stayed here because it was a penal colony dear. Please don't muddy the waters.
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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5614	Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay? Reply #11 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:34pm Grendel wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:30pm: APPLES AND ORANGES TALLOWOOD TSK, TSK, TSK... LOL the first settlers stayed here because it was a penal colony dear. Please don't muddy the waters. Melbourneans would strongly disagree about penal. BTW, both apples and oranges are not Australian natives.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay? Reply #12 - Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:44pm ah yes but they weren't the first settlers... and they think Batman is someone called John now... no more mud
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Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay?
Reply #13 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 2:32am

Grendel wrote on Oct 17^th, 2008 at 11:10pm:

been there explained that lestat suggest you look it up in the Multiculti forum.

So how long have you been here not to be able to identify what an Australian is or what their lifestyle is like?

The fact you know English and understand at least a modicum of the Australian vernacular is a start. The rest of your behaviour here towards fellow Australians leaves much to be desired though

you assume there is some sort of all encompassing trait or behaviour that defines australians. what a wonderful watering down of our society. how wonderfully simplified australia is now that every single person has at least one characteristic that identifies them as one of the flock.

what a joke.

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Grendel

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Re: If Muslims "hate" the West why stay?
Reply #14 - Oct 18^th, 2008 at 2:41am

no actually the joke is the newbies like yourself that seem to have no concept of Australian culture as it has developed.

In fact you probably wouldn't be here except for it.

funnily enough we are recognised by other nationalities. gee I wonder how they do that if there are no defining features of what it is to be australian.

Enough deflection... how about addressing the original post.

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