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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	ISLAM - WORLD SUBMISSION THE ULTIMATE GOAL Oct 22^nd, 2008 at 1:55pm Islam believes itself to be the one true religion. The Koran the unadulterated word of God. All must submit to Islam eventually. Whether by free will or by the sword.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: ISLAM - WORLD SUBMISSION THE ULTIMATE GOAL Reply #1 - Oct 22^nd, 2008 at 2:12pm Wherever did you get such an outlandish idea like THAT from ?? Abu and lestat will surely prove you wrong.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: ISLAM - WORLD SUBMISSION THE ULTIMATE GOAL Reply #2 - Oct 23^rd, 2008 at 9:43pm lol won a bet with myself on this one sprint. I bet none of them would come near this topic... the truth is too painful and hard to defend against.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: ISLAM - WORLD SUBMISSION THE ULTIMATE GOAL Reply #3 - Oct 23^rd, 2008 at 10:08pm hhaha, talk about an odds on favourite. Hey - at last they never denied it !!!
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You're so full of it, Grendal!!!
Reply #4 - Oct 23^rd, 2008 at 10:13pm

Grendel wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2008 at 1:55pm:

Islam believes itself to be the one true religion.

The Koran the unadulterated word of God.

All must submit to Islam eventually.

Whether by free will or by the sword.

World submission??? World domination??? Hahahahahahahaha!!! In your twisted, WACIST and delusional world, Grendal!!! You wacist!!!

As Abu and BR would say, what a downright wacist, bigoted and absurd thing to say, Grendal.

Not only is what you're saying absolutely not true, there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest Islam is anything but a peaceful religion intent on getting along with everyone. You're clear wacism and KKK behaviour is just blinding you from what's really true, Grendal. You deserve to die!!! Die wacist, die!!!

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: ISLAM - WORLD SUBMISSION THE ULTIMATE GOAL Reply #5 - Oct 23^rd, 2008 at 10:16pm You think maybe I should delete the "free will" part of my opening post?
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Reply #6 - Oct 23^rd, 2008 at 11:53pm

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won a bet with myself on this one sprint.

Not good to gamble.

Yes of course Islam aims for total world domination, as do all ideologies. Just that most others are much less honest/open about it.

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All must submit to Islam eventually.

This sentence doesn't make a lot of sense when we consider the meaning of Islam (submission). All must submit to submission eventually... Submission to submission?

All must submit to the Creator eventually I think you mean.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40717 Gender:	Re: ISLAM - WORLD SUBMISSION THE ULTIMATE GOAL Reply #7 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 12:10am No abu, islam is the only belief that aims for world domination. you may not think this, but when "normal" people hear this, they think I am joking.
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Reply #8 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 6:06am

ROTFLMAO
You are way too easy aboo... back with the pedantry eh Grin

I know what Islam means.

I also know what Islamics want for the world. Hitler was the last one that tried that.

Good to see you don't even attempt to refute the TRUTH.

Unfortunate that it is the truth and you accept it blindly and happily.

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Reply #9 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 8:11am

ARROGANCE!!!

All religions may like the thought of being able to convince everyone in the world that they are the way and the light, and many actually "proselytise" strongly wherever they can, but only Islam has the baldfaced arrogance to demand capitulation to their beliefs, under a vile threat of violence and death.

HUBRIS!!
Only Islam has the hubris to believe their insanity is actually achievable.

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OOPS!!! My Karma, ran over your Dogma!

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Reply #10 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 8:50am

mozzaok,

Unfortunately for you, there's a 2000 year history of Christianity that shows that it was spread often by violent conflict and total decimation and eradication of any pre-existing ideologies/beliefs.

And likewise there's a 1400 year history of Islam that shows it was spread by missionary activity, which was accompanied by military support, and that almost every single pre-existing belief/ideology STILL REMAINS till this day, in most cases over 1000 years later. Proselytisers to Islam from amongst the companions of Muhammad (pbuh) reached China to preach Islam, no army accompanied them...

It's quite obvious to anyone with an objective bone in their body which ideology was spread by "the baldfaced arrogance to demand capitulation to their beliefs, under a vile threat of violence and death."

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Reply #11 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 8:55am

ROTFLMAO

Of course there is no such thing as Christian missionaries.
Of course the Muslim invasion of India wasn't the bloodiest in human history.
Oh and the Crusades of course were not the retaking of Jerusalem.
Of course the murder of Christians just because they aren't Muslim doesn't happen. Nor did the Bali bombing. Etc, etc, etc.

Oh and...

Islam believes itself to be the one true religion.

The Koran the unadulterated word of God.

All must submit to Islam eventually.

Whether by free will or by the sword.

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Gaybriel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191	Re: ISLAM - WORLD SUBMISSION THE ULTIMATE GOAL Reply #12 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 9:04am Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 12:10am: No abu, islam is the only belief that aims for world domination. you may not think this, but when "normal" people hear this, they think I am joking. for real?? I always thought of christians being the most active in the attempts to 'convert the world'
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: ISLAM - WORLD SUBMISSION THE ULTIMATE GOAL Reply #13 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 9:07am Well you'd be wrong then gaybriel. The Catholics tried it. They aren't trying it anymore. In Christianity belief and "membership" is not forced.
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Reply #14 - Oct 24^th, 2008 at 9:30am

Grendel wrote on Oct 24^th, 2008 at 9:07am:

Well you'd be wrong then gaybriel.

The Catholics tried it.

They aren't trying it anymore.

In Christianity belief and "membership" is not forced.

what about door knockers? and missionaries are still at it.

They were in Thailand when I was there after the tsunami. I believe it went "come to our church or we won't build you a house".

Sounds forced to me.

I'm not saying this is all christians, but certainly the mission to convert has been a strong one within the christian tradition. Just because the tradition is less so now, doesn't mean it is discounted from the religion as a whole.

If Islam is constantly asked to answer for its history- why not christianity? Or do we only speak of christianity as it has been for the last few decades?

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