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LYING, AND UTTER DISRESPECT FOR ALL NON-MUSLIMS
Oct 24th, 2008 at 12:04pm
 
THE LYING, AND UTTER DISRESPECT FOR ALL NON-MUSLIMS,
....DEMONSTRATED BY ISLAMIC DOCTRINE.



Example #1,

Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad - Speaking publicly, AND THEN PRIVATELY, regarding the London 7/7 bombing victims.

"......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html


Example #2,

ISLAMIC scholar says,

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should **preach** peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, **only until** they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...**a regular visitor to Britain**.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece


Example #3,

Listen to the words from the lips of a UK muslim cleric, Anjem Choudary.

On Youtube - an interview on UK TV,
Anjem Choudary talks of the London 7/7 bombing victims,

"...when we say innocent people, we mean muslims."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a muslim....i must have *hatred* towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[muslims] allegiance is always with the muslims, so i will never condemn a muslim for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4


Example #4,

Note well, these words in the following news report....

".....There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims."

Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam
By Duncan Gardham
01/05/2007
In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: "Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".
The article advised: "The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy.There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims. Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/01/nplot901.xml


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WHO ARE ISLAM'S / ALLAH'S ENEMIES???

ISLAMIC texts make this very clear....


"Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.101


'[whoever] becomes an unbeliever, his blood may legally be spilled....'

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/law/fiqhussunnah/fus3_50.html#3.110


"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.0...


The Koran clearly states that, 'those who reject Allah have no protector.'
....i.e. '....[their] blood may legally be spilled....'

"....those who reject (Allah),- for them is destruction, and (Allah) will render their deeds astray (from their mark).
....those who reject Allah have no protector."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.008
v. 8-11




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Re: LYING, AND UTTER DISRESPECT FOR ALL NON-MUSLIMS
Reply #1 - Oct 24th, 2008 at 12:13pm
 
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Where the adoption of ISLAMIC doctrines will lead us....

25 May 2007
"......Al-Faisal spent years travelling the UK preaching racial hatred urging his audience to kill Jews, Hindus and Westerners.
......But throughout the trial he denied he had intended to incite people to violence.
......he argued his talks came from the Koran and if he was on trial so was the holy text."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6692243.stm


Yet when revealed, many supposedly 'moderate', or 'true', muslims will claim that Al-Faisal, and his kind, 'misunderstand' ISLAM.

I find such claims disingenuous.

Why?

Because, those 'properly guided' muslims, who [supposedly] know that ppl like Al-Faisal are 'mistaken' in their understanding of ISLAM, never rebuke ppl like Al-Faisal, in their 'error'.

The only rebuke which is forthcoming, from the 'properly guided' muslims, and muslim community spokesmen, is invective, directed towards non-muslims, for THEIR [non-muslim] 'bigotry', and 'misunderstanding' of ISLAM.

Dictionary...
invective = = strongly abusive or critical language.

"Bigot, racist, shut up! You are full of hatred against muslims! Learn something about ISLAM before you speak! ISLAM is peaceful."

Why don't muslims direct such invective, against those ppl who claim to be muslims, against those who ['true' muslims claim] are 'misrepresenting' and 'misunderstanding' ISLAM ???


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THE SEARCH FOR TRUTH.....

Many devout ppl would agree, that the search for God,
...is the search for TRUTH.

I believe that it is futile to seek God, travelling a path of deceit and violence.


Psalms 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing [deceit]: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Psalms 36:1
The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
2  For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.
3  The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good.
4  He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.

".......there is no fear of God before his eyes."



Many times, muslim clerics in their sermons have been revealed to be promoting [to muslims], the intolerance and the hatred of non-muslims, and the intolerance of all things un-ISLAMIC, and heard to be stating their desire to see the dismantling and the destruction of non-muslim communities, non-muslim governments and non-muslim laws.

Yet all the while, these same muslim clerics [seemingly happily] live alongside, and within, those same non-muslim communities.

And all the while these same muslim clerics derive, and accept, all of the benefits which those non-muslim communities bestow upon them, without exclusion [i.e. without discrimination].


When these muslim clerics are confronted with their spoken [intolerant] views, they will often claim are their words were, in fact, being 'misunderstood', or 'misinterpreted', or 'misrepresented'.





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Reply #2 - Oct 24th, 2008 at 12:18pm
 
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Dictionary
dissimulation = = to hide or disguise one's thoughts or feelings.


Example of dissimulation #1

Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney......Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).
"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."
......Sheik Feiz.....said he felt like an "alien" in his own country....
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html

When the assertions of Sheik Feiz were later, widely publicised, the muslim cleric then claimed his remarks were 'misunderstood'.

Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood
January 18, 2007
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/19/asia/AS-GEN-Australia-Cleric-Controver...



Example of dissimulation #2

Muslim leader blames women for sex attacks
October 26, 2006
THE nation's most senior Muslim cleric has blamed immodestly dressed women who don't wear Islamic headdress for being preyed on by men and likened them to abandoned "meat" that attracts voracious animals.
In a Ramadan sermon that has outraged Muslim women leaders, Sydney-based Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali also alluded to the infamous Sydney gang rapes, suggesting the attackers were not entirely to blame.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20646437-601,00.html

Again, **after** his views were publicly revealed, a spokesman for Sheikh Hilali said that, "...statements made by the mufti [were] misrepresented".

27 October 2006
Australia Muslim cleric suspended
Sheikh Hilali's comments about women's dress were delivered in a sermon to some 500 worshippers in Sydney last month, during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
...Muslim leaders decided to accept his apology and said that no action would be taken against the cleric.
Mosque Association president Tom Zreika said the board was "basically satisfied with the notion that certain statements made by the mufti [were] misrepresented".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6090136.stm

[Actually the above BBC headline is incorrect, Sheikh Hilali was not suspended.]




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Reply #3 - Oct 24th, 2008 at 12:24pm
 
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Exposing the clear duplicity, and the hidden animosity, on the part of *leaders* in the muslim community [UK],
......toward non-muslims.


To our faces muslims will speak of,
....their wish for harmony and co-operation with the non-muslim community
....their support for democracy
....their support for tolerance of other faiths
....their tolerance of non-muslims
....their support for inter-faith dialogue with other faiths
....their affection for Christians - 'You are People of the Book, our brother/sisters.'


In our absence muslims speak of,
....their desire, to destroy democracy and to subjugate non-muslim ppl [their current neighbours]
....teaching [within their community] intolerance of all un-ISLAMIC governments and laws
....their despising the ppl of other faiths
....their intolerance of all non-muslim, un-ISLAMIC, cultural influences
....ppl of other faiths as corrupting [to muslims] and vile
....Christians as vile, corrupt ppl.


Watch, and listen to the actual words of muslim clerics,
....who say one thing [about ISLAM and its aims], WHEN SPEAKING PUBLICLY,
....and then say [and encourage], **the exact opposite**, WHEN SPEAKING PRIVATELY [TO THEIR CONFEDERATE MUSLIMS].

Dispatches - Undercover Mosque (1 of 6)
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo

Persecution of 3000 Ex-Muslim Christians in UK - (Part 1/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXF-rJAOHGQ


ABC Radio National Religion interview transcript  - "The Undercover Mosque: The return"
".....Stephen Crittenden: .....your program highlights a certain kind of duplicity. When they're caught out, individuals don't miss a bit, they just say they've been taken out of context....
David Henshaw: ......Regent's Park Mosque is officially committed to inter-faith dialogue.....
A GROUP OF CHRISTIANS VISITING THE MOSQUE and the preacher and the Women's Circle treat them kindly and talk about 'We're all people of the book and we all come from the same history'....
JUST AS SOON AS THAT GROUP OF VISITORS LEAVES, THE LANGUAGE CHANGES COMPLETELY. 'CHRISTIANITY IS VILE', the preacher says.....
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/religionreport/stories/2008/2360820.htm#transcript



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MY CONCLUSIONS ABOUT ISLAM....

ISLAM is a supremacist political philosophy which, uses DECEPTION, VIOLENCE, and the INTOLERANCE, against its 'enemies'.

ISLAMIC hatred is motivated, and sourced, from ISLAM's own 'religious' texts.

ISLAM's own 'religious' texts, define its 'enemies' as all non-muslims who reject ISLAM's authority, and its right to order their lives.

According to many within the muslim community, revealing this TRUTH about ISLAM is,
....'spreading hatred'.

I say that revealing TRUTH, is God's work for all men.
....and i say, that those who hate TRUTH, hate God.

Q.
If those among us, who identify themselves as 'pure' and 'real' muslims really believe in TRUTH, then why don't they [have the courage to] speak out against the duplicity and lies,
....spoken in their name?

Q.
Who do these 'real' muslims imagine they serve, TRUTH?


Time and time again, it has been demonstrated that ISLAMISTS will publicly say one thing [when addressing non-muslims], but will endorse and encourage opposite views, speaking to their confederates.

Is the TRUTH so distasteful to muslims, that it cannot be shared with those [who muslims claim], are upon a 'wrong path'?





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I do not hate muslims, or anyone else.



But yes, i see ISLAM as evil, and as a great deceiver.

I know that many muslims are intrinsically good ppl.

But i believe that all who fall under its influence, are deceived, by ISLAM, and its clerics.


Proverbs 4:14
Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men.
15  Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away.
16  For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall.
17  For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.


Proverbs 9:6
Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.
7  He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.
8  Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
9  Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
10  The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.


Amos 5:10
They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.



It is my wish that muslims would study their own Koran and Hadith, and not merely be led by their clerics urgings.

"Satan makes them promises, and creates in them false desires; but satan's promises are nothing but deception.
They (his dupes) will have their dwelling in Hell, and from it they will find no way of escape."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html#004.120


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