Australian Politics Forum - what made you become a Muslim?

Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #15 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 9:31pm Ahh I'd like to know why I'd be threatened to be moved along by a moderator of the islam forum? I'm here to debate... if the heat is too hot for you... don't threaten me. just admit when you are wrong.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40711 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #16 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 9:37pm typical muslim mentality. Either agree (dimmitude) or you will be deleted. far cough
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abu_rashid

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Reply #17 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 9:43pm

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I'm here to debate... if the heat is too hot for you... don't threaten me. just admit when you are wrong.

This thread is not a debate. freediver asked about reasons why people embraced Islam. Now obviously you seem to view every discussion you're involved with Muslims in as a debate, it simply isn't a debate, and that's why your hostile and debating mentality has been singled out as unwelcome in this thread.

What exactly am I to admit to being wrong about? There was no predicate offered, and therefore I can't be actually considered to be wrong about anything.

Now you've been told, either get with the 'vibe' of the thread, or move along.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #18 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 9:51pm lol debate involves an exchange of opinions... It also involves the delivery of information... I suggest you start delivering instead of threatening.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40711 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #19 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:00pm grendel - good luck on that one.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #20 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:17pm I think he's frightened of me sprint. Or of the truth. I haven't said anything on this topic to warrant such behaviour.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #21 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:21pm yet...
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40711 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #22 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:23pm grendel !! You have questioned !!!!! That is more than enough
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Reply #23 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:26pm

Grendel wrote on Oct 27^th, 2008 at 9:51pm:

lol

debate involves an exchange of opinions...

It also involves the delivery of information...

I suggest you start delivering instead of threatening.

he has already delivered heaps of information.

the immaturity is so overpowering right now.

Do you have a shrine to every imaginary minute victory you feel to be yours?

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abu_rashid

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Reply #24 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:28pm

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debate involves an exchange of opinions...

That's right it does, but that's got nothing to do with this discussion, because, as you still can't seem to fathom, this is not a debate.

Do you know what a debate is? No... it's not "any discussion I happen to be in and a Muslim is in also".

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I think he's frightened of me sprint.

Yeh, being the intellectual goliath that you are, I've got a lot to be frightened of.

Maybe you'll say 'rotflmao' and then I'll be completely vanquished Grin

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Reply #25 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:31pm

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Do you have a shrine to every imaginary minute victory you feel to be yours?

Go easy on him Gaybriel. Grendel doesn't taste a lot of actual victory, so when he perceives himself to have won some trivial (or even non-existent) point in the most irrelevant of discussions, he tends to break out the confetti for himself and celebrate a little. But really we shouldn't deny him this, if it makes him feel a little better about himself.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #26 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:35pm whats up gaybriel... you losing it. Its just fds site not the world debating championships. You need to take a valium... I dont need "w@n#ers to gang up on me for no reason except their own insecurities. neithr of you are setting a good example as moderators
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Reply #27 - Oct 27^th, 2008 at 11:03pm

Grendel wrote on Oct 27^th, 2008 at 10:35pm:

whats up gaybriel... you losing it.

Its just fds site not the world debating championships.

You need to take a valium...

I dont need "w@n#ers to gang up on me for no reason except their own insecurities. neithr of you are setting a good example as moderators

well I'm so sorry to have let you of all people down Grendel. my world is shattered.

I'm not ganging up on you- I'm pointing out your habit of congratulating yourself extensively whenever you think you've won some kind point scoring battle

it's wonderfully childish

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: what made you become a Muslim? Reply #28 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 9:23am Well I hate to point this out to you gaybriel but I haven't congratulated myself here at all. Talk about blind bias.
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Reply #29 - Oct 28^th, 2008 at 2:50pm

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 27^th, 2008 at 7:41pm:

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......I am going off memory as to what he actually said and have tried to find a transcript. I do know my initial surprise at his comments have stuck with me.

Your memory is probably not very reliable then.

"The singer attracted controversy in 1989, during an address to students at London's Kingston University, where he was asked about the fatwa calling for the death of author Salman Rushdie. Newspapers quickly interpreted his response as support for the fatwa, but he released a statement the following day clarifying that he had not been supporting vigilantism, and was merely explaining the legal Islamic punishment for blasphemy."
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this guy has really gone backwards

From a life of depravity, decadence and no direction. To a grounded and moral life which has purpose. If that's backwards, then I'm glad I signed up too.

I accept my memory may be a bit fizzy, and it was 20 years ago.

Did he accept the fatwa as legal then and therefore it would not be an act in vigilantism. Him explaining the mechanisms of the "law" and saying that he does not support vigilantism doesn't actually explain his position.

For instance, if he held it to be law, then he would not be a vigilante if he enforced this punishment.

Or did he criticize the fatwa, and say that it was wrong?

Of course I don't view his pre-muslim life that way, but I accept that both he and you do.

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I dream of a better tomorrow, where chickens can cross the road and not be questioned about their motives.

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